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It can also get much, much, much worse

I don’t want to sound a sour note amidst the hope/optimism that I am seeing in posts and comments below, but I do not take a lot of comfort from last night’s results. I do not disagree that it could have been much, much, worse, nor do I disagree with the notion that the Democrats, through a combination of sheer stupidity and craveness tossed away an opportunity for a really big night.  However, having already witnessed the implosion of a once reasonably competent and strong GOP in New York State, I know what an impending disaster looks like and unfortunately, I am seeing some similarities between today’s VA GOP and the NY GOP of seven or eight years ago. This obviously scares the hell out of me.

Here is what troubles me. New York, politically, used to be two states–New York City and the rest of the state. The City was obviously extremely  left wing–always has been and sadly always will be. The City essentially had to be on the verge of a violent collapse in order for a socially liberal Republican, Rudy Giuliani, to eke out a narrow victory in 1993. All future ”Republican” Mayors elected in NYC will follow the Michael Bloomberg model of being Liberal Democrats with a modicum of common sense who switch labels for the purpose of sidestepping the corrupt unions, race pimps, charlatans and bag men who dominate the Democrat primary process. 

Acknowledging all of that, it must be noted that up until 2000 or thereabouts, Westchester, Nassau and Suffolk Counties formed a very solid Republican bulkwark that guarded what was a largely Red State outside of the City (minus a couple of small pockets in inner-city Buffalo and Albany). Demographics began shifting in the early 70s, as Westchester, Nassau and Suffolk were invaded by large hordes of radical left wing refugees from NYC. The GOP held it together in these border counties through the 70s, 80s and 90s because they had some very savvy and charismatic political leaders–guys like Nelson Rockefeller, Malcom Wilson, Jim O’Rourke, Andy O’Rourke, Dominic DiCarlo, John Flynn and Al D’Amato (who may or may not have been a sleazebag, but was undeniably a very shrewd political operator who ran a first rate political organization). They knew how to raise boatloads of cash and they were able to attract strong candidates to run at the local level. 

Things started to slip when George Pataki came to power in 1994 and dominated the potical landscape. As an initial matter, during his first term when he actually governed like a conservative, this was not a bad thing and the GOP made some gains in the Assembly and built a seemingly insurmountable majority in the State Senate. The problems began in earnest during Pataki’s second term when he turned left and simultaneoulsy sucked the oxygen out of the GOP room by failing to expend resources developing talent at the lower levels of the party or assisting anyone in climbing the ladder to statewide prominence. By the time Pataki mercifully slithered off into retirement after a lackluster third term, the state GOP had no new faces who were exciting and recognizable across the state. The result was a complete implosion in 2006–and a situation whereby the only thing that separates New York from being Massachusetts or Vermont, are a few beseiged congressmen and a razor thin State Senate Majority that will be dead and gone by 2008 (or 2010 at the latest)–unless of course Elliot Spitzer is actually stupid enough to ram his plan for handing out driver’s licenses to illegal aliens into law.

With that somewhat interminable introduction, let’s look at my relatively new home and yours, the Commonwealth of Virginia. Here in Virginia, we’ve already seen a demographic shift caused by the invasion of left wing hordes from the Northeast and the monument-infested, slightly larger, carbon copy of Camden that is also called the District of Columbia. This invasion has obviously had dire consequences as Arlington and Alexandria have achieved the almost impossible feat of becoming more insanely liberal and Fairfax is now practically indistiguinshable, politically, from suburban New Jersey.  And as one who lives amongst these idiot hordes, I can tell you there is no reasoning with them. The GOP and God Almight Himself  cannot conquer the invincible ignorance of the Northeastern liberal. You don’t know how many times I have asked a neighbor here in Arlington ”So Bill and Hillary, you moved out of DC/NY/Boston because the taxes were too high, the cost of living was through the roof, and everything was going to hell in a handbasket, but you want to vote for the exact same kind of person who created that situation in DC/NY/Boston?” They usually respond reflexively–sort of like Pavlov’s dogs only with less intelligence and poorer hygene–with a Nation/New Republic-inspired screed I like to simply refer to as ”I hate Bushitler!” or, when they are too drunk on Chardonnay to fully remember the latest Paul Krugman/Keith Olbermann talking points, an oldie but goody rant about guns, gays or abortion.

Moreover, as if this demographic shift wasn’t problematic enough, I also don’t see much to get excited about at the top of the GOP here in the Commonwealth. With all due respect for someone I am told is a fine man, Jim Gilmore excites me less than cold oatmeal. The only reason I can conceivably seeing myself working very hard for him is the fact that I absolutely despise Marky Mark with every fiber of my being. Having gotten up close and personal with him on a couple of occasions, I feel comfortable reporting that he is completely without scruples and is the one guy who could give Billy Jeff Clinton and Teddy Kennedy a run for their money in The Scumbag Derby.

I don’t like Jim Webb–as anyone who has suffered through my previous pearls of wisdom can attest–the man clearly suffers from a serious form of mental illness. With that said, I don’t fear him–he has all the charisma of Mike Dukakis coupled with the intellect of Patrick Kennedy (and if you are ever in the need of comedic gold, stop by the Hawk & Dove some Thursday night and dare Pat Kennedy to offer a policy position on anything more complicated then the virtues of nachos versus chicken wings). The only reason Jim Webb is currently befouling the United States Senate is that George Allen ran as bad a campaign as I have ever witnessed, in the middle of a political tsunami–and even then, Webb’s victory was a closely run thing. I have little doubt that we will be able to pick him off in 2012–assuming he even wants to run for re-election-even if we run a completely milquetoast candidate.

Mark Warner, in contrast, while a total sleazebag, is no dummy by any stretch of the imagination. One need only look at the legislatively-sanctioned ponzi scheme he devised to build his fortune at the expense of taxpayers to understand that fact. If he gets into the Senate, the only way he is leaving is by his own choice or in a pine box. And he is shrewd enough that he will use that Senate seat to raise boatloads of cash which will only serve to make life more difficult for the GOP.

As for McDonnell and Bolling, they seem like decent guys, but again, they don’t do much to get the blood pumping and I’d be less than confident with either of them going into Governor’s race. In my view, we need some exciting talent at the top of ticket for both the senate and gubernatorial races. Allen sort of fits the bill for the gubernatorial election, but I worry he has been irreparably damaged as a viable candidate by the 06 election. I am praying that Ed Gillespie will come back at the state level when the Bush Administration mercifully limps off the field and that we can convice someone like Peter Pace or Ted Olsen to get involved. It may well be that both of them might be overhyped (a la Fred Thompson) or poor campaigners, but I’d rather try to catch lightning in a bottle then run known commodities who put people to sleep.

Anyway, I apologize for peeing on the parade. As a New York-bred, conservative Republican who now lives in North Arlington, I am afraid that it is my destiny to fight the good fight for lost causes. Please have at my commentary–tear it to bits, question my intelligence or sanity, or sound notes of righteous indignation at my defeatism. Watching yesterday’s results coupled with discovering that an utter defeatist moonbat like Ron Paul actually has some tangible support (by virtue of the Guy Fawkes telethon) has got me fearing that some rough beast, its hour come round at last, is slouching towards Bethelem to be born. Or maybe I just caught sight of Joe Stanley pulling out of a Taco Bell Drive Thru. In any event, I would like to further apologize for egregiously paraphrasing William ButlerYeats–the Good Fathers at Boston College would be gravely disappointed. It is probably time for me to go have a cocktail (or ten).

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  1. Great post.

    As a former resident of Bergen County, NJ (NYC suburb) and relatively new resident of Fairfax County, I can relate.

    Agree that we need dynamic and charismatic leadership, but more than that, in my opinion, we need organization, organization, organization.

    From my experience in working with the NOVA Repubs and from the comments of others, the RPV is in shambles. From the phonebanks to the literature drops to the working the polls on Election Day, the Repubs were terrible. The Dems were energetic and organized and simply outworked us in many races in NOVA.

    The same thing happened last year with Allen. I couldn’t believe how poorly organized the party was. Things that should have been handled weeks before the election — like volunteers to hand out sample ballots — were left to the night before. Much work didn’t get done at all. (Many voting locations had no one handing out Republican ballots. The Dems simply outworked us for months and months and Allen lost.

    Outside of Arlington and Alexandria, VA still is more conservative than most states. Even the rest of NOVA is somewhat conservative. Look at Cuccinelli and O’Brien’s support. Even Chap is somewhat conservative.

    We can still win in NOVA and we can certainly be more competitive here to minimize our loses in important statewide races. We just need a strong party to recruit young, dynamic candidates. And we need an organized party that has it’s act together and leaves no stone unturned and that has a plan to win elections beyond mere hope.

    I have read that Ken Cuccinelli is perhaps a model to follow. He’s a conservative in a relatively hostile area. But he’s articulate and smart and commanding. And he has a tremendous organization and works his plan and gets his supporters to the polls as well as anyone in the state on Election Day. We need more Ken Cuccinellis.

    An unpopular George Bush won in 2004 b/c he was better organized than Kerry and the 72 Hour Project identified and got every last Republican to the polls in key states. If RPV had such a turnout model, we would have won a few more races yesterday.

    The common theme I am reading today on the various VA conservative blogs is that the RPV is a mess, esp. in NOVA. There is no excuse for that.

    Quite simply, the Repub Party should dominate this state as this is still a conservative state. The notion that VA is trending blue in terms of ideology is a myth. GWB won this state by a huge margin. It’s just that the VA Dems are running better candidates who are better organized and who hide as much of their “blue” as possilbe in order to get elected.

    The party needs to be rebuilt from top to bottom.

    The question I’ve yet to see answered is how we do that.

  2. An interesting video that the NRSC linked over to.

    The Real Mark Warner:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjyvWWnIOPQ

    As for Bolling and McDonnell, either one of them will likely be the next Governor. I expect either one of them to steamroll Creigh Deeds or whoever the Democrats put up. They are both very able policy makers and at the end of the day that will be far more effective than any “gimmick” candidate ala Pace or Olson. Same goes for Gilmore.

  3. Your “Quite simply…” paragraph is spot on. The Dems are spending millions and millons on organization and PR, to make sure everyone THINKS Virginia is going very blue. Money and advertising work. See:
    http://www.conservativa.com/wp/?p=190

  4. Politics has its peaks and valleys- this is definitely a valley right now. I do see one bright spot on the horizon – Bob McDonnell. I was at the Fairfax Rally Saturday morning and McDonnell really wowed the crowd. He also spoke with the YRs who were going door to door.

    He grew up in NOVA and gets suburban Virginia – all while being an unapologetic conservative. McDonnell will make a great governor in 2009.

  5. Nice — your whole point is that Virginians are too stupid to vote for Republicans.

    Here’s a bit of advice for Republicans: toss the social conservative religious nuts overboard before the boat completely sinks. I side with Republicans on fiscal issues, not social ones, and could never bring bring myself to vote Republican until the social convservatives are drummed out.

  6. Rittinger, I have to second everything you said (with the exception of Bob McDonnell — I think he may very well be the most talented VA GOP candidate I have witnessed so far). You nailed the NY situation perfectly (as someone who grew up in the Albany area — but a very red part of it) and applied it very well to lessons we NEED to learn here in VA before it is too late.

    You sir, are our very own “Dennis Miller.”

  7. Riley,

    That is high praise indeed. I thank you. With respect to Bob McDonnell, I will be very happy to be proven wrong on that account. It is entirely possible that the few times I saw him were bad days. I know that my parents would be proud to see a Notre Dame guy running things.

    And Hoobie, the problem with posts like yours is they are obviously fraudulent and belied by the actual outcomes of elections. Generally speaking, in tidal change elections, it is the moderates who get killed. The congressional wipeouts of 1994 and 2006 were largely built on the extermination of Blue Dogs (in 1994) and RINOs and moderates (in 2006). Sure, a couple of conservatives like George Allen and Jim Talent went down, but they were exceptions to the rule. If your side is stupid enough to put Hillary at the top of the ticket, you are likely to see at least 50% of the Blue Dog contingent wiped out in 08, while your moonbat contigent is unscathed.

    At the end of the day, we both know that you are probably one of my “Bushhitler!” neighbors, sitting in your well-apportioned furnished basement, sipping chardonnay, and watching Olbermann. The idea that you would vote for a Republican at any time is laughable. Davis did everything she could do to appease people like you and look at where it got her. In contrast, the Cooch repeatedly sticks his thumb in your eyes, beats you up, laughs at you and takes your lunch money and you are powerless to stop him.

  8. You laid it on the line. As a grassroots leader I have seen GOP politicians who are apathetic and expect to be in their positions until they decide to leave … no matter how they vote or how much their constituents protest their votes.

    Democrats led by MoveOn.org are targeting the state particularly the reddest areas; they are turning out their voters and energizing their volunteers.

    Some Republican electeds have publicly been bashing their volunteers….

    Thank you for such an honest look at the GOP. I hope we are able to turn things around and am willing to work hard(er) to achieve it.

  9. [...] Posted on November 8, 2007 by Riley Continuing on the theme started by Rittinger where the VA GOP — at all levels — should take heed of what happened to the once [...]

  10. Great post. I think Tuesday’s lesson boils down to three things. We need:

    1. New Leadership: I think RPV is a mess and happen to think that since Bob McDonnell has the best chance of any R or D to become the next governor, he is in a unique spot to fill this void. Gilmore can’t do it, Allen can’t do it. Bolling can’t do it. Bob has proven he is a consensus builder who works across party lines and intra-party lines to get things done (i.e. transportation, eminent domain, illegal immigration, etc). No other R in the state can do that right now.

    2. Organization: Again, RPV is a mess. Coordinating outfits (have you heard about this? Yes, regional directors supposedly have to wear tan pants and blue shirts) isn’t going to win elections. Coordinating precincts will, however!

    3. Marketing: The Ds are kicking our butts here. The Republican brand used to mean something good but we’ve been distracted by infighting, lost sight of our princicples, and have engaged in questionable behavior nationally (Craig, Mark Foley, Abramoff), and now the Dems are pointing at us going: “Wow, why would you want to elect those clowns?” Until we get a good answer for that and then communicate it effectively, we’re gonna keep losing.

  11. This is a great post. Local races are ultimately decided by local issues and local pols. We need more Ken Cuccinellis around the commonwealth- people who are articulate and principled. Common-sense conservatives.

    The party struggles because it never thought it would have to work for any votes in Red State VA. Now it does have to work becuase of a generation of poor candidates who can’t draw flies.

    We need to rebuild the grassroots- take a couple million dollars and put it into developing the Farm System. We’ll see the benefits in 4 years’ time.

  12. One of the little known facts about the traffic problem in N VA is that the Democrats’ solution is “smart growth” which means high density development in already built up neighborhoods (Vienna, Fairfax, Merrifield) around I-66 and the Metro.

    This has led to impossible traffic build ups in areas that were already too congested. The Democrats want to turn what used to be a suburban county (Fairfax) into an urban Arlington – Alexandria style area which will vote one party Democrat all the time.

    The fact that we have a County Chairman who works for a developer who has orchestrated this mess has been mostly ignored by the mass media. Innovative solutions like synchronization of traffic lights or light rail seemed to be ignored by the present increasingly one-party regime. Also, most everyone in Fairfax wants to live in a cul-de-sac neighborhood with few short cuts that will allow traffic to be diverted from major roads.

    Our county party also needs to work on building a far better grassroots organization with reliable lists of who are Republicans (which could easily be gathered from past campaign lists and primary voting). The lists I used to help turn out voters were riddled with staunch Democrats and voters who had not lived there in years. A check off list of who voted should also be utilized. In a low turnout election like the one we had, we could have won if we had turned out our vote. Of course, internet technology could be effectively utilized to do this in the future.

  13. The Cooch (a term trademarked by a bitter friend of mine who works for the bad guys) is precisely the sort of guy we should be grooming and preparing for bigger things. I have never seen a harder-working operation at that level.

    With that said, to do that, we need to get some money in the coffers to boost the Cooch and other “farm system prospects”. To do that, we need some charismatic leadership at the top and a ruthlessly efficient organization underneath. While a boatload of people tell me I am wrong about McDonnell, I have yet to hear from someone who doesn’t think RPV is a wreck that is badly in need of a serious overhaul. Someone needs to reach out to Ed Gillespie and point out to him that GWB is a lame duck and fairly or unfairly there is almost nothing that can be done for him at this point. If the war continues to go well and he gets a chance to square off against Charlie Rangell’s tax plan he might edge north of a 40% approval rating before next year’s election. But that will either happen or not happen based on events that no amount of handlers can fix or manipulate.

    Ed is a proven winner, an organizational genius, and in the brief time he was running RPV, I saw a glimmer of hope. He left to soon to complete the overhaul. Well, we need him back, and a the national party needs him here if only to build the type of organization that can keep Mark Warner out of the senate.

  14. Interesting post. I disagree that McDonnell does not excite. He has clear ideas and from all I have seen is popular around the state.

    I hear from folks that Thompson doesn’t excite. But this is the same guy whose smooth southern demeanor won him two races in his home state with huge margins. The steady approach is not an altogether bad one.

    That said, I would love to see Ed return to Virginia and run for office.

  15. “At the end of the day, we both know that you are probably one of my “Bushhitler!” neighbors, sitting in your well-apportioned furnished basement, sipping chardonnay, and watching Olbermann. The idea that you would vote for a Republican at any time is laughable. Davis did everything she could do to appease people like you and look at where it got her. In contrast, the Cooch repeatedly sticks his thumb in your eyes, beats you up, laughs at you and takes your lunch money and you are powerless to stop him.”

    Comments like this expose a complete misunderstanding of reality, which is why Republican prospects are dimming not only in VA, but across the entire country. Your analysis is laughable.

    Ditch the religious social cons and then the R’s will have a fighting chance. Keep the existing coalition intact and you will soon learn that is is too narrow to succeed anymore on a statewide or national scale.

  16. Its difficult to impossible to generate interest and support from the base when our party leader President Bush does not even have support from the base. Illegal immigration, out of control spending and Iraq have taken its toll on our supporters. No 72 hr or GOTV plan the world will work given the current conditions. Just ask all the NOVA candidates how difficult it was to find door knockers and poll workers even when they were offered a financial reward. I could argue someone like Sen. Jay O’brien and Davis never even had a chance and it was a miricle it stayed so close. No stategy in the world would save most of these seats in the current environment.

    The mess we got ourselves in is NOT the fault of RPV, or the candidates, or strategy (social conservative vs. moderate) for the most part. Its the national environment and the Republican brand name that tends to move in cycles. Contrary to what many are saying, there is really no easy answer. Given the current environment and conditions we should be extremely luck not to loose more seats in the senate and the majority in the state house.

  17. Two things:

    Hoobie, you are a fraud. Confronted with the fact that it is the squishy middle that gets killed in tidal elections, you basically stick your fingers in your ears and whine like a baby. Shut up and don’t come back until you can present a single staement that is supported by facts. Republicans have thrived since forging an alliance between social and fiscal conservatives. Prior to that coalition, we had 50 years of Democrat dominance on a national level interupted for briefly by liberal Republicans like Eisenhower and Nixon. I understand that as a wild-eyed liberal you would love to see the end of this broad, winning coalition, but it isn’t going to happen and you are going to continue to be disappointed–especially when Hillary goes down in 08.

    twocents, while Bush certainly creates some drag, strong candidates like the Cooch and Corey Stuart prove that if you run a strong and principaled campaign you can win even when you are behind enemy lines (The Cooch) or when you have a giant target on your back (Stuart). And do not kid yourself, RPV is in shambles–I can tell you that from watching the deployment of the Republican ground game during the 06 election. It was as disorganized and half-assed an affair as I have ever witnessed. The poll watching/election attorney program that I participated in was a joke and the get out the vote efforts were hampered by outdated phone lists.

    The fact is, if we sit around blaming Bush, we will never fix fundemental problems that are easily correctable if we put forth an effort. We have better ideas then the Democrats–its why they try so hard to hew as closely to our positions as they can on economic issues during the election cycle (abandoning it for their profligate tax and spend regime upon assuming power. We can kick their ass pretty much everywhere except Arlington and Alexandria if we put the money and organization into it. But it is going to take some work.

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