AND STOP ATTACKING PRO-FAMILY LEADERS
ALEXANDRIA - The U.S. Senate campaign of former Gov. Jim Gilmore today demanded that Del. Bob Marshall, R-Prince William, who is also seeking the Republican U.S. Senate nomination, apologize and stop attacking Lieutenant Governor Bill Bolling, Attorney General Bob McDonnell, and the long list of prominent pro-family Republican leaders who are supporting Jim Gilmore.
“To say that Jim Gilmore or the many prominent Republican leaders who support him have a “death wish” or are not pro-life is, at best, ill informed and, at worst, out of control political opportunism,” Gilmore’s campaign manager, Dick Leggitt, said. “Del. Marshall’s unfortunate attacks on these distinguished Virginians are repugnant.”
“Del. Marshall should apologize to the Republican leaders he has unfairly attacked and take a moment to remember the alternative is electing Mark Warner to the U.S. Senate to vote with liberals Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer, Chris Dodd and Ted Kennedy on this and other important issues like taxes, spending and national security.”
“It’s a shame that Del. Marshall’s rhetoric is becoming so overheated. He needs to remember that the goal of Virginia’s nominee is to defeat liberal Mark Warner in November,” Leggitt continued. “The fact is, the objective of this campaign is to prevent liberal Democrats like Mark Warner from taking complete procedural control of the U.S. Senate. To that end, it would be helpful if Del. Marshall would either come in out of the sun or put on a hat.”
“Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling, Atty. Gen. Bob McDonnell and the more than 30 pro-family Republican leaders who are actively supporting Jim Gilmore as the Republican candidate who can defeat liberal Mark Warner know that as Governor of Virginia , Jim Gilmore stood for the preservation of traditional family values time and time again,” Leggitt said.
“These Republican leaders know Governor Gilmore is the only active statewide Republican leader who has carried the state twice and carried Northern Virginia twice and they also know he pushed through successful legislation that created a 24-hour waiting period for women seeking an abortion,” Leggitt said.
“Governor Gilmore successfully worked for legislation which required parental notification for minors seeking an abortion and helped enact legislation which banned partial birth abortion. He also created the Virginia Abstinence Initiative, dramatically increased funding for adoption services and signed into law legislation banning human cloning,” Leggitt said.
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You may want to do more than just repeat a press-release out of the Gilmore camp. This has absolutely no context or any bearing in fact. At no point has Marshall used any rhetoric or attacked anyone who has backed Jim Gilmore.
Spin, spin, spin.
VV,
You should put up a poll between Marshall and Gilmore!
Come on folks, of course McDonnell is going to back anyone but Marshall because Marshall just embarrssed him in court. As for Bolling, just look at the strong family ties between the Gilmore-Bolling factions.
All Bob Marshall has done is plainly illustrate Jim Gilmore’s very weak position on the life issue. I certainly have no problem with this type of tactic. Gilmore now looks like a crybaby.
Putting out this press release just makes the problem worse for Gilmore because it exposes this weakness.
I know Marshall is making very strong inroads in the pro-life community and Gilmore is getting concerned. I am all about competition so I hope Marshall keep hammering away.
[...] pretty much don’t get a whole lot of folks all that riled up, and Gilmore feels he needs to whine back with a press release that starts like this: The U.S. Senate campaign of former Gov. Jim Gilmore today demanded that Del. [...]
Gilmore is a prosecutor who views our citizens as a collection of perps and potential perps.
Bob Marshall has a longstanding tradition of standing-up for the powerless and as an advocate for Liberty and Justice for all Americans.
The fact that the Party’s establishment (those corporate puppets) have fallen in line behind Gilmore, is all the more reason to support Bob Marshall. Why should the citizens support a team that has been leading our Party away from majority status and continues with the same old Neocon message that has been rejected by Virginia voters in the last two gubernatorial elections?
I don’t think the endorsement of McDonnell, nor that of Bolling, is much a surprise. Bolling has all the political family ties- easy pick for him.
McDonnell, in my mind, is simply covering his endorsement ‘bets’ once again. No different than he did when he endorsed Fred Thompson, after, George Allen (who was heavily rumored at the time to be running for gov in ‘09) had endorsed Thompson.
In the same fashion, McDonnell is insuring that he’ll have equal access to every resource, database, polling data, etc, that Bolling would have had, IF Gilmore wins.
Of course if Marshall wins, they’ll both be sol, or at least should be.
To this press release; Gilmore could list 10,000 pro-life Virginians for all I care. If I’m making a judgement on that issue alone- there are only three names I’m looking for: frmr. Del. Dick Black, Patrick Henry President and frmr Lt. Gov Candidate Mike Farris, and Bob Marshall. I didn’t see any of these on that release.
As for Gilmore winning Nova twice; anyone want to take the bet that Gilmore can win it a third time? If so, email me, I’ll gladly take your money.
[...] over cyberspace. The Washington Post has Marshall’s initial comments, Proud Republican at Virginia Virtucon reprints Gilmore’s press-release response (which garners its own response from fellow VV [...]
Marshall was right, This is a death wish for the party’s hopes of ever conquering the Governors Mansion
So, PWConservative, am I to take it that its not enough to try and sabotage the GOPs 2008 Senate campaign against Mark Warner by ankle-biting Gilmore to no end, but that Marshall and co. are now going to try and poison the well for our ‘09 gubernatorial candidate?
Marshall and his supporters are trying to sabotage this party because they are having a hissy-fit that no one in their right mind is going to support Bob Marshall’s candidacy. That is something that Marshall should deal with without campaigning for a Democrat to be elected Governor in 2009.
TCT,
You are assuming that GIlmore will defeat Marshall in May. Neither PWC nor I share that view.
Try to keep that in mind.
Furthermore, he was making a comment on McD and Bolling’s political judgement, not advocating for their defeat.
Perhaps if you were more proficient in the English language you wouldn’t be so bent out of shape over this.
Not one poll taken since Warner and Gilmore announced shows Gilmore within 15 points of Warner- and he has virtual 100% name recognition. There is nowhere to go but a concession speach in November for Gilmore. He should hang it up.
Marshall is a skilled debater and, while not always in sync with all Virginians, can effectively define himself outside the political class (which, let’s face it, all of us on here are) between now and November. He has a chance to win. Gilmore does not.
Why the State GOP continuously shoots itself in the foot by nominating awful candidates for statewide positions is beyond me.
Isn’t the reality of this incident that Del. Marshall is upset that the LG and AG did not endorsed him?
He is criticizing three Republicans who have won statewide campaigns, and telling them that they don’t know what they are doing?
Del. Marshall apparently is an expert on winning statewide?
What is hilarious is watching all these hard core conservative bloggers who ran mouths agape to the McCain Campaign when they saw he had Super Tuesday in the bag, and then start criticizing anyone who didn’t come with them, because the anti-McCain bloggers were not willing to abandon MANY, (not just one) of their core issues.
Don’t criticize McCain they say… but yet, it’s full broad sides at Gov. Gilmore over one issue. Real Classy Guys…. No one notices, just go right ahead with your attacks.
Ha, Ha, I guess Gilmore notices because his campaign seems to be in full panic mode because Marshall has essentially captured most of the grassroots pro-life voters at this point.
Its a very sad day when the former governor CANNNOT even pick up more than a handful of GA members or ANY Congressman. The only reason he has Bolling is due to family ties, and of course Marshall crushed McDonnell in court.
I do agree that Gilmore does have more statewide contacts but what good are they when his campaign and Gilmore’s likability are tanked.
Gilmore does not know were he stands on Iraq, Abortion, what next? As for statewide electability, just look at his poll numbers and negativity rating. Its off the charts for being so early in the campaign. Many grassroots Republicans cannot stand the thought of Gilmore standing for the nomination of the Republican Party. He has just burned too many bridges in the past.
If Gilmore does indeed win, I imagine in the end, many Republicans will cast their vote for McCain, Warner, and their respective Republican congressman unless an absolute miracle happens and Mark Warner is implicated in a huge scandal. Those are indeed the very sad facts. I certainly will support Gilmore if he is the nominee but many others just will not.
Gilmore endorses McCain.
WHY DON’T YOU, SPANKY???
“Gilmore endorses McCain.
WHY DON’T YOU, SPANKY???”
What? And be accused of being an Establishment Republican? GASP! Why I hear that’s sinful, and then I would be associated with the likes of our LG and AG?
The Cold Truth, on March 12th, 2008 at 11:34 pm Said:
So, PWConservative, am I to take it that its not enough to try and sabotage the GOPs 2008 Senate campaign against Mark Warner by ankle-biting Gilmore to no end,
No We aren’t attempting to sabotage the 2008 GOP Campaign, Rather we are trying to nominate someone who is actually savvy enough to win, Marshall by far has the web campaign, And He understands what it takes to win, and he could easily take NOVA
PWConservative:
If I understand you correctly, you are of the opinion that Bob Marshall could easily win NOVA.
Could you explain what empirical analysis is driving that opinion such as examination of past electoral results, polling, etc?
NotNotJayHughes
If you include NOVA As a whole yes he could win, By Landslides in PWC and Loudoun
PWConservative:
That’s not what I asked. I asked you what analysis is driving your opinion. I’m not interested in your anecdotal feelings or “all the people you talk to”. What objective, empirical analysis is driving your assertion that Bob Marshall will win in a “landslide”.
Whilst you ponder your response allow me to challenge you with some cold, hard, unpleasant 2006 northern Virginia US Senatorial election returns which leads me to believe that your opinion is inaccurately drawn from nostalgic, anecdotal observation as opposed to cold, hard empirical analysis.
I think it is common knowledge that northern Virginia is comprised of the following…Counties: Arlington, Fairfax, Prince William, Loudoun and Cities: Alexandria, Fairfax, Manassas and Manassas Park….
Here are election returns for those localities Sorted in descending order by winner:
Arlington County Webb 53021/Allen 19200
Fairfax County Webb 202036/Allen 137313
PW County Webb 44503/Allen 42409
Loudoun County Webb 40381/Allen 39249
Alexandria City Webb 31638/Allen 12695
Fairfax City Webb 4541/Allen 3451
Manassas City Allen 4301/Webb 4003
Manassas Park City Allen 995/Webb 948
These data are drawn from the official returns listed on the Virginia State Board of Elections website. As you can see, the Democratic candidate’s victory in Fairfax was significant. Fairfax used to be reliable territory for us Republicans because voters in the western side of the county would offset the more liberal voters on the eastern side of the county. However, whatever is going on in Fairfax County regarding demographic shifts, the cold, hard data clearly demonstrates that Fairfax is trending blue. You don’t have to like it…that’s just reality.
I’m sure you’ll argue that George Allen just wasn’t conservative enough. I’m sure you’ll argue that if we had a “real” or “true” conservative like Bob Marshall thousands of conservatives would magically materialize and come out to vote and propel Marshall to victory throughout northern Virginia.
But to reasonable people this just isn’t supported by cold, hard empirical analysis. Bob Marshall will not win northern Virginia by a landslide. He will not even win northern Virginia at all. Looking at the objective data it’s clear that George Allen didn’t even carry “old reliable” counties like Prince William and Loudoun. Allen lost in both of those formerly old reliable counties. If a solid conservative like George Allen couldn’t carry these counties then it’s simply unrealistic that an ultra-conservative like Marshall could carry the day in those counties.
If you and your fellow Marshall supporters want to guarantee our best shot at beating Mark Warner, then you’d spends some time persuading Bob Marshall to drop out, endorse Gilmore and encourage all conservatives of Marshall’s stripe to unite behind Gilmore. Otherwise it’s simply folly to think that Marshall will magically turn out voters to defeat Warner.
I look forward to your response.
I know you are addressing Pw conservative but I will not sit back and look at this type of garbage.
Gilmore the best shot at beating Warner, have you looked at any polls on Gilmore here in VA?
Just take a look at the latest poll done by a fairly conservative group called Rasmussen. Gilmore was getting absolutely clobbered by 20 points and his negatives were through the roof before Warner has even touched him. In the end, Gilmore could struggle to even break 40%. By your logic, all Republicans are supposed to align with the moderate Gilmore who stands a better shot at winning.
I think both Marshall and Gilmore will lose NOVA but Marshall will do very well in Loudoun and PWC because even those who disagree with him admire his courage and dedication to constitutional principles, not so much because of ideology but because he stands up for those who have no say like the citizens stuck paying higher taxes and fees through HB3202 and ALL THE UNBORN. He does not set a deadline on who gets to have an abortion or be aborted.
Marshall will excite the grassroots and get more conservatives involved while Gilmore’s candidacy up to this points speaks for itself. Just awful!
Up until a few days ago I was undecided but Gilmore’s silly little games have changed my mind.
NotNotJayHughes,
No, I’m NOT arguing Allen’s Conservatism, Allen was a Cookie-Cutter Conservative though, Marshall has respect from non Traditional-Conservative Organizations like League of Conservation Voters and The Sierra Club who have wholeheartedly endorsed him.
2005: He finishes 9 Pts ahead of Kilgore in PWC and Four Pts ahead in Loudoun, All while barely lifting a finger to campaign.
2007: Also, Hardly Campaigns. Wins 58-41. Gilmore endorsers, Fitzsimmonds loses 46-53, Lingamfelter wins 50.1 to 49.6
This is clearly a man who knows the New NOVA Political dynamic.
He is also not so extreme as to repel or scare Minority Voters like Allen did, likely acting on his SD Campaign Manager’s advice.
Marshall can win because he is a different brand of statesman, I’m sorry if you don’t like that He’s a “team player” but thats what the electorate wants, Virginia is no longer a ” Vote by Party State”. Virginians actually make up their minds now, based on the actual candidate.
All it takes to win, is to get this message out, Bob Marshall doesn’t play on the Republican or Democratic team, He plays on OUR team.
Marshall is cut from the very same cloth as Reagan, A Democrat turned Republican. Someone to appeal to both party’s without compromising on our Sacred Values, Someone who can effect, Not just change, But Positive Change
They say a Reagan only comes around every hundred years, Thats not true, We are only wise enough to nominate a Reagan every hundred years.
If you want to turn around the unresponsive politics exhibited in DC by both party’s, If you want Positive Change, If you want Genuine Conservatism, If you want the Pride of saying “Thats my Senator”, Than you must become a delegate to the state convention.
It is time for Change, Our Nations Hope lies in the hands of the House and Senate, And there is no one I would Trust more than the Delegate from Prince William: Robert Marshall.
I Will also add, I Support Candidates based on merit, Not “electability” though I believe Marshall has a better chance. Here is data to support my claim that conservatives are more electable
Kilgore (moderate-wouldn’t take a strong stand on abortion)
T M Kaine Democratic 1,025,942 51.72%
J W Kilgore Republican 912,327 45.99%
Vs Allen (significantly more pro-life)
J H Webb Jr Democratic 1,175,606 49.59%
G F Allen Republican 1,166,277 49.20%
And this years Senate races
Conservative’s
Frederick Quayle 58.62%
Frank M. Ruff 58.96%
Ralph K. Smith 50.75%
Emmett W. Hanger, Jr. 65.36%
Mark D. Obenshain 70.40%
Jill Holtzman Vogel 48.44% Vs Karen Schultz 47.16%
Richard H. Stuart 50.61%
Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II 50.02%
Liberal Republicans
Nick Rerras 45.52%
Jeannemarie Davis 44.44%
it’s also worth noting neither Rerras or Davis got the NRA endorsement