Sources tell Virginia Virtucon that RPV Chairman Del. Jeff Frederick will NOT resign from his post and will stay and fight the attempt to remove him. A vote to remove Jeff is now scheduled for April 4. While the 3/4 majority of State Central Committee members necessary to remove a chairman have signed on to the letter, which is said to include ten allegations against Frederick, Jeff is currently working on peeling away support for the letter.
Those same sources say that Del. Morgan Griffith is whipping the vote count on SCC to make sure that there are at least 20 votes in support of Jeff so as to defeat the attempt to remove him. There are claims that some people signed on to the letter without fully understanding exactly what it was they were signing on for, with some believing that it was merely to bring up the allegations for discussion, not removal. The Frederick camp believes that between such people dropping their support for the letter as well as the likelihood that not every SCC member will attend or send a proxy to the April 3 meeting that they can prevail in the vote.
We are expecting to receive additional details later. All I can say is that the next month will be very interesting to watch unfold.
Filed under: Jeff Frederick, Republican Party of Virginia
[...] Frederick To Stay and Fight for RPV Post [...]
I asked one of the cabal to let me see the letter, but he refused. I am a member of SCC.
He said I can see it after Jeff gets it and then it will be released.
I’m a SCC member, but I can’t see the letter from folks on SCC using the Party Plan to throw out the Chairman?
Ah, what an above board, fair, open process – indeed.
[...] Frederick is not planning on resigning before an April 3 meeting of the RPV, says Jim Riley at Virginia [...]
Surely, if there is speculation of a letter of removal, there is speculation of the charges…
We won’t speculate, but will make public the contents of the letter once we receive a copy.
Well, this is great news for Democrats.
Mr. Bowden,
Very interesting to know that. You would think they would try and get your support with the letter. Perhaps they just know you won’t play along? Frederick was elected to a specific term. We lost an election year that no RPV chair could have prevented. This all seems a bit rash.
Let’s be clear about what’s what.
I was asked by telephone – hmm Monday night if my short term memory holds correctly – to get on board.
I asked a number of questions – among them was to see the letter. The answer to me was “No.”
Why is it that J-Fraud puts his own financial gain and personal ambition sixteen levels above the interests of the party? Cant he see clearly the way everyone else does that he IS THE problem?
A Republican would quickly resign for the good of the party. J-Fraud is obviously NOT a Republican.
Lets speculate that J-Fraud wins and there are only 2/3 votes to remove him at the end of the battle? Does he really think he is a help rather than a hinderence going into the fall campaign?
Jeff – you have overstayed your welcome. Please, for the sake of the Party, go away.
sundance, how do you figure your post is helpful or adds to the discussion? Reagan’s best attribute was his lack of pettiness, and the arguments I’ve heard against Frederick all seem- like yours- to be personal and petty. Will this seriously help us win elections? I doubt it.
Without passing judgement one way or the other, I can say this: the reforms Jeff started were long overdue and were designed to put power back in the hands of the grassroots, where it belongs. That direction MUST continue regardless of who’s chair. Is there someone more ready to do this right now? I doubt it.
Let’s stay away from pettiness and remember that, if we’re all Republicans, we agree on more than we disagree. The Dems perfected the circular firing squad as an artform. I say we not do the same.
There is a credibility problem with the 64 signature story. Nobody posting appears to have seen even one of the 64 signatures, or even a draft copy of the letter. The readers are required to accept the statements of a handful of bloggers that some important well connected people told them 64 members of the SCC have signed on requesting Frederick’s removal. We are accepting the statements of anonymous sources for something that would be an easily corroborated set of facts.
J.A.B. here states that he was not even allowed to see the letter he was being asked to sign. Even if there are commitments form 64, the actual physical copies of 64 signatures may never materialize.
J. Fred may be convinced to leave over the embarrassment, but right now the insurrection may not possess the votes. There may be 64 inconsistent half hearted commitments to removal.
The leaders of this effort in the SCC may have pulled this trigger too early, perhaps a little “mis-tweet” of their own. Now J. Fred has an opportunity to fight for survival.
RL, the numbers have been confirmed by people inside the Frederick camp. But they are disputing that all of those individuals knew precisely what it was they were signing on for and that is where they are concentrating on defeating the removal vote.
[...] Virginia Virtucon is reporting that Frederick has refused to resign and will instead stay and fight: Sources tell Virginia Virtucon that RPV Chairman Del. Jeff Frederick will NOT resign from his post [...]
I have seen them!
Just got this from Bob McDonnell:
“It is clear to me, after hearing from Republican leaders across the state, that as we move forward with our campaign, as well as the other statewide and House of Delegates races, it would be helpful for the Republican Party of Virginia to have more effective leadership in this pivotal year,”
So someone please tell me why the House Majority Leader, Morgan Griffith is out on a limb with Frederick while Bob McDonnell, Bill Howell, Bill Bolling, Eric Cantor and all our Congressman want Frederick gone?
Are some of you now trying to compare J-Fred to Ronald Reagan????? If Fredrick had any sense of decency he would resign to save the party a drawn out fight. For God’s sakes, Bob McDonnell has now stated that Fredrick must go. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass.
First off, I wasn’t comparing Jeff to Reagan, simply saying that attacking fellow Republicans is counterproductive and classless. I’ll stand by that.
McDonnell made his feelings known, which is fine, but he did it in a classy way. Now I don’t agree with this overturning of the will of the people for what seems to be personal reasons- who’s the better reformer/organization builder ready to step in?- but this is a question that should be handled the right way, and the disrespectful tone Loudoun and sundance used tells me it is not.
Plus, if you’re going to replace an elected leader with an unelected one, you better have one hell of an awesome replacement ready to roll- and that does not impress me as being the case here.
I respect that position Riley… I was suggesting context.
And rightly so.
People lets talk about Jeff.
Plain and simple everything he accused LG Hager of he has done. Jeff hasn’t won a single election during his tenure. He cannot fundraise period. This isnt about Moderates or Conservatives or whatever. It is about one simple thing. He cannot do the job. If you want to see Bob McDonnell and Bill Bolling (WHOM FREDERICK DOES NOT SUPPORT) loose in November then please by all means support Jeff. Go back read his campaign promises and how he’s broken them. Go back and look at how little RPV raised. He has made promise after promise to work with everyone and he’s done nothing but the opposite. Ask Thelma Drake Ask Virgil Goode how much support he gave them in their races. Ask the people who have been out in the trenches where have they seen Jeff. NOWHERE. Unless you count seeing him be Keith Olberman’s whipping boy on MSNBC.
this next month will be interesting, that’s for sure. this year we have a chance to take back the governor’s mansion and set a course to take back a couple congressional seats. this is a distraction and it’s going to stay a distraction if Jeff fights this and stays chair as RPV– no other way around it. let’s say some people didn’t know precisely what they were signing onto— there’s still going to be a significant portion of members that did know what they were doing and want him gone. he has every right to fight this, but he will stay a distraction and mcdonnell, et al will win despite his serving as chair- not because of it.
Riley,
Thank you for the explanation that the numbers have been confirmed by J. Fred’s folks.
Chris is right. There may or may not be enough votes to remove Frederick, but a critical mass has risen against him, and continuing as chairman would serve only as a distraction. As the Mcdonnell camp has chosen to play a role in this scenario they should work with Frederick to help Frederick resign while saving some face.
J. Fred is embarrassed, and has resigned his house of delegates seat, the party can at least reserve a place for him in politics, even if it is a lowly place.
Are you freaking kidding me?!? Give this opportunistic, self-serving s.o.b. any place at the table?!? This must be a pathetic joke.
This vulture shamelessly self-promoted himself for years. He only swooped in like the jackal he once he saw Hager could be beaten. It’s never been about the health of the party (which is bad, or a scavenger like him could have never risen as far), only about himself.
‘Fredrick’ never understood that simply because you CAN do something does not mean you SHOULD.
It doesn’t help that he’s an idiot. This jackass has been the butt of more jokes since he got in than anyone–and it ain’t because of his effectiveness. He’s just not that bright.
Wrapping oneself in conservatism, mantras, etc., can never substitute for just not playing well with others. He’s an unlikeable, unethical [expletive deleted]–and that’s something no amount of fighting or campaigning can ever overcome.
Somewhere along the way he bought into his own BS and began to believe all the attacks on him were because of his inherent greatness and leadership.
In reality he’s just a unwelcome moron nobody likes to be around, much less work with.
Well, he’s finally run up against Lincoln’s maxim and can’t fool enough of the people any more. It’s kind of a shame, too, since some honest-to-God “salt of the earth” folks are still fooled by him: pro-lifers, homeschoolers, etc. I hope they won’t fall for his crap again and fight for him to hold on to personal power.
He really is just not a good person.
He has zero place in a party trying to genuinely improve itself to do battle with the real problems the opposition is creating out there.
First, I’ll believe it when I see it, but right now I don’t see evidence that there are enough SCC members to make this happen. It sounds like an effort to intimidate and gather momentum.
Second, without addressing each of the criticisms aimed at Frederick (a preponderance of which seem more than a little emotional / lacking in credible details), I will at least say that no one is giving him credit for what he has done in his very short tenure to re-organize and revitalize the organization. One very specific contrast that can be made between the Frederick tenure and that of his predecessor is on the subject of RPV support for local elections. A little over a year ago in the special election to replace Rob Wittmann in the House of Delegates, LeAnn Washington got trounced in a district that voted overwhelmingly for GW Bush, handing the district to the Democrats. The support she got from RPV was little more than words of encouragement. Frederick’s record of giving support to such efforts is a tremendous improvement, including having paid staff on the ground to help augment sterling local efforts in recent elections in territories swept by Obama, nearly picking up Brian Moran’s seat and putting Pat Herrity on the Fairfax Board of Supervisors.
Third, while we will all respect and follow the decision of the SCC, I think it is important for everyone to remember the wave of discontent among the grassroots that led to Frederick’s ouster of Hager. It was an example of the grassroots rebelling against the dictates of the insulated, chummy old establishment. In RPV’s traditional wait-your-turn, pay-your-dues method of closed door power brokering, the elevation of a young upstart with some rough edges was a refreshing rebuke to those whose tendency is to always take decision-making power out of the hands of the ordinary voter/activist. The reports of the current effort to oust Frederick smack of that same sort of thing, particularly when none of the purported 64 have seen fit to shine a bright light on what it is they’re doing. If there is to be a new chairman, let it be decided at the Convention in May, where all of the rest of us who give our money, time, and effort to the party can have a say. Keeping it behind closed doors is just a recipe for more of the same disastrous top-down culture that has lost the last several election cycles.
Mr. Albertson,
Please many of the folks signing this letter are conservatives and are activist like your self. Go down the list and tell me why folks elected by Conventions of a greater percentage of population than Jeff voices do not count. Because they have witnessed the atrocities first hand and are willing to fight to save the Party people like yourself throw us into mix moderates and liberals. Please, do your research and if you wish to keeping drinking the cool aid then be prepared to see us fail and it will rest on you and others like you shoulders.
Mr. Wade,
If you have a list of the signers, I’d love to see it. Absent that, doing the “research” you suggest is a bit difficult, which goes to my point that if there were a really compelling reason to oust the chairman it should be done in the light of day rather than by a secretive cabal.
And “atrocities”? Really.
douchebagsayswhat?
To me it seems simple. The Republican Party has lost the governorship, two senate seats, and voted Obamma in 2008. I have lived in this state for 16 years and have never seen this kind of turn to the left! The most effective, electable conservative republican representatives are against this guy (Cantor, Bolling, McDonnel). If conservatism is to win in the VA republican party than the leadership needs to change. We need to unite behind a conservative agenda, and we don’t need a quasi conservative leading the charge who can’t fundraise, divides/demoralizes the party, and can’t lead. Let’s elect a real conservative to lead this state’s party who knows how to win. That obviously isn’t Mr. Frederick.
Frederick must go, but Steve Albertson raises some good points that Mike Wade simply dismisses. The reasons behind this push should be made available to the wider RPV population. Someone in the know needs to release this letter to the blogs and get it out there for perusal and discussion.
I actually agree here with both LI and Abertson. By any account and if the rumors are only 1/2 true Frederick has done an absolute awful job but I would still like to see a detailed list of offenses. Many people did take their time to go to Richmond to vote for Frederick. On the other hand, you have to be a very poor leader to get 80% of the SCC pissed at you since most of that committee is very conservative not to mention McDonnell I understand the need not to air dirty laundry but let the accusations see the light of day not just rumors. Since Frederick seems to want to put up a fight go ahead and list the details. Right now I don’t see a long line of people willing to support Frederick in public.
Jeff Frederick is a proven winner of elections and an effective fundraiser. He is a fighter. Given the decline of the RPV over the past 10 years, it is unbelievable that the party establishment is considering dismissing the fairly selected Chairman of the grassroots delegates. Jeff will certainly challenge the status quo and at times make some of us uncomfortable. Given that the status quo for RPV has recently been losing elections, Jeff Frederick may be exactly what is needed. The question is whether we have the courage for him to take us where the party must go to re-establish its position in Virginia.
Jeff you have my full support.
[...] As I understand it, it is a three-quarters majority, not two-thirds as the article states, required for removal. Thus, it would take 58 votes to oust Jeff from the post, so have there been some defections? It certainly sounded like that was a likelihood according to Team Frederick earlier this month. [...]