Here is the statement from Catherine Crabill’s website:
Dear Fellow 99th District Voters…
I am amazed at how quickly some who have never spoken to me or asked me about the veracity of these accounts are ready to throw me and my campaign under the bus.
First of all, you would have had to have been living in the western states during the Clinton administration to understand the tension his policies created during that dreadful time in history. Had I not been there I imagine I would have a difficult time understanding the drama his policies created. Using the Endangered Species Act he destroyed a significant portion of the logging industry that many rural communities depended on to survive. Where I lived the logging was shut down and then the Department of the Interior was moving to shut down ranching by listing some swallow-tail-something-or-other as endangered. They held meetings to inform the community that they may have to ban cattle or fence off their access to the river so the habitat of this bird would not be destroyed. This was completely insane. I thought it was a joke. The Clinton Admin, soon after, determined that forest rangers and other environmental officials were to be armed. This was a first! Combine this with the move to enact more gun legislation and you had gun owners scrambling for additional arms and ammo (sound familiar? Talk about déjà…) It was in this climate of fear (of losing one’s livelihood, not starting a range war…) that the Clinton Admin started by reporting on “white supremacist” and “cults” (believers in “end time” events) as a threat to domestic security, (again, sound familiar? Have you read the DHS report and the profile they have on you?) It seemed everyone who was against Clinton’s policies were to have their character assassinated by this type of “profiling”. That’s what you have to do. You have to “demonize” a group of people that resist you so you can attack them. That’s when our Government under Janet Reno murdered those dozens of men, women, and children in Waco,because they were considered a “cult” and may have been selling guns without permits. Do you soon forget the horror of that event? How many Americans sympathized with them? Not many. Why? Because Clinton had done his job successfully removing any regard for “those” people. They must have “asked for it”. Think about that. We sure did, because my God fearing, freedom loving, independent ranchers and loggers, were being made a part of his profiled “hit list”. They were being profiled as racists and gun loving lunatics. No one seemed to care that they were neither. Then they went after that family in Ruby Ridge and shot a mother as she stood holding her baby in an open door way. They were self-proclaimed racists. So did they “ask for it”? Should we declare open season on racists? I am no racist and have the bona fides to prove it. I am not a gun owner but I did participate with the Women on Target group in White Stone last year and intend to do so again. If I ever feel competent with a fire arm I will not be ashamed to obtain one. I am not a cult member and neither were my neighbors any of these things. But I didn’t get to define who I was, neither did my neighbors. The Clinton Admin did. (Now the Obama Administration is.)
I submit rather than be outraged at a group of innocent Americans terrorized into believing that our government was capable of any act of violence against them without any indictment or other due process, you should rather be outraged at our government! We didn’t need a “conspiracy theory” about what might happen, it was happening.
As far as the Bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City which happened during this season of other horrific events, I did and do believe that our government was culpable in the OKC bombing. This was not based on a “conspiracy theory” but on the analysis of Brigadier General Benjamin Partin (retired) who resides in Alexandria, Virginia who is an expert in weapons development. General Partin spent his own time and his own money personally visiting the site in OKC and publishing his analysis. From there he hand delivered a copy PERSONALLY to every single member of Congress. Congressman Trafficant was the only one willing to stand with him and call for a press conference to address it. The very next day Trafficant canceled and never spoke to the General again. This man is a patriot and a hero and I do not and will not recant my confidence in his report. I attach this youtube link for your reference: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4224779103128976372. I also don’t believe the official report of who shot JFK, does that scare you? General Partin’s assessment was brilliant and as far as I will ever be concerned, irrefutable.
I am not ashamed of standing with my friends and neighbors in New Mexico from the domestic terrorists known as our own government. I am thankful that the immediacy of that particular threat passed without greater conflict. These events happened 15 years ago and there has been nothing in my history since then until this present time that could possibly indicate an obsession with what the press tried to paint as “anti-government” activity. Nothing. They had to go back 15 years to find anything worth attempting to create and manufacture a frenzy out of. I learned in that day that the press is always willing to make an ass out of anyone they don’t understand or disagree with.
The reality of what happened, which was in no way represented with any integrity or authenticity in these “news releases”, was a dark chapter in our nation’s history and we would do well to recognize it being recreated today by our current Administration. This time, however, it is all of you, my fellow conservatives, my fellow Republicans, who are being profiled. Not a remote group isolated by geography and anonymity.
This is not what I would want to be known for but I will not run from this and I sure as heck will not apologize for it. Again, the recently released Homeland Security Report absolutely vindicates the concerns many honest, noble, American patriots, had then and, unfortunately, have now.
If this destroys the Republican Party’s confidence in me, so be it. I intend to stay true to my charge. I will not be dropping out of this race. In fact, I would think this should inspire greater confidence in my character as someone who will not be silent in the face of evil and will not remain silent when faced with a threat to my family, community, or my nation. In other words, should I win this election, when I swear to uphold and defend the Constitution of our State and/or our Nation, I will actually mean it.
If you go to my website and refresh your minds and thoughts with the concerns of our Founding Fathers in the Patriots Corner you will be reminded that if we fail to learn from the past we will and are repeating it. In fact, everyone of the signers of the Declaration of Independence would be on Clinton’s and Obama’s Domestic Terrorist List. I consider myself in good company.
Feel free to share this with anyone who cares. I will not be bullied by a leftist blog who wouldn’t understand the truth or righteousness or freedom if it bit him you-know-where.
Call with questions or concerns. I so appreciate a straight forward approach rather than cowardly sniping behind my back.
Sincerely,
Catherine Crabill
The first part of her post regarding the Endangered Species Act and the ranchers and loggers is pretty well on target. And, if you were living in the west during this time, it especially rings true.
However, she completely flies over the cuckoo’s nest here:
As far as the Bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City which
happened during this season of other horrific events, I did and do
believe that our government was culpable in the OKC bombing.
Then she goes on to say:
I also don’t believe the official report of who shot JFK, does that
scare you?
The only thing she doesn’t address is ROSWELL!!! (Wait, is that broach she is wearing in this picture below one of a UFO?)
Seriously, we CAN do better than this as our candidate in the 99th against Albert “The Trashman” Pollard. The filing for the GOP nomination should be reopened and a legitimate candidate who will not drag down the rest of the ticket in this district should be allowed to compete for the nomination.
Filed under: 2009 Elections, Nutjobs, Republicans, Virginia General Assembly
At conventions, canvases, and mass meetings “none of the above” can be a valid ballot option.
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She reminds me of a female version of Dale Gribble from King of the Hill.
Are we in elementary school boys + girls? Is what you have posted/pictured/photoshop’d above representative of an adult with intellectual capacity, good character, integrity, or common decency? I think not. Your comments about Catherine Crabill are juvenile, offensive, not completely accurate, and sprinkled with ignorance, along with your peers who have commented along the way. I would suggest again as Allen Webb has, that you actually contact Catherine Crabill if you have issues with her views or need further clarification. Or you can view her response on her website. However, I don’t believe you wish to know the truth or desire understanding.
I would encourage + suggest Catherine Crabill to IGNORE such attacks and comments.
Also, if you’re not a registered voter within the 99th district I don’t really see how you or any other commentors have any basis for providing input as Catherine Crabill is responsible to represent the 99th district, then the Commonwealth at large.
BTW, Catherine Crabill or her supporters (I would believe) would not stoop to such childish actions.
Signed,
Sincerely disappointed in + embarrassed by my own party’s lack of character + maturity
Sensibility, we republished her own statement in full and linked to it on her website. She dug this hole herself. No serious candidate, even if they believe these things, would go on and on about it on their own website. She’d be lucky to crack 20 percent in the general election and I’m being generous with that.
LI, no, that doesn’t make you a kook. I’m sure there are errors in there and things yet declassified. But in the context of things following her OK City conspiracy rant, it paints a broader picture.
I don’t believe the official JFK assasination report either – am I a kook???
She does sound pretty wacky, however. Did Muldoon recruit her?
I have known Catherine Crabill for a very long time. In fact, I went to high school with two of her children. Most of you who have said such negative comments do not even know Mrs. Crabill. She cares very deeply for her community. She is a very fun person who is very open to anyone no matter who they are. If you have never met Mrs. Crabill before, then I suggest you to meet her instead of typing such despicable comments about her.
Willy P
Look, Willy, I’m sure she’s a very nice lady. And I even have some friends who subscribe to some kooky conspiracy theories. But none of them are running for office and, if they were, they certainly wouldn’t be airing it in such a manner on their websites. Calling the U.S. Gov’t “domestic terrorists” (as she did in the first sentence of the fifth paragraph of her post) is NOT the way to appeal to a majority of voters. And that is really the bottom-line here. This is an election. Republicans should be able to win and hold this district. But if we put up a candidate with this kind of self-inflicted political wound, we can write off not only winning this seat, but also some support for other GOP candidates up-ballot. If the 99th Dist. Cmte. can’t recruit a solid candidate with a good shot at winning this seat, then perhaps the cmte. needs new blood. I am not ready to go that far yet, though, until I see how this plays out.
We’ve condemned the leftist so-called “9/11 Truthers” who believe that a missile hit the Pentagon and such other nonsense that claims the U.S. Gov’t was really behind the 9/11 attacks. We would be remiss and hypocritical if we were not consistent in this case as well. We never touched this issue until Crabill sent out that email and posted it on her website. And you can bet that Albert “The Trashman” Pollard will use this in his campaign against Crabill if she is the nominee. Better it comes to light now and is dealt with one way or the other than having it pop up in September or October.
It reminds me of that scene in Tommy Boy where Richard leans over to Tommy and simply says “you have derailed”.
It would serve all of us well to do research on all candidates prior to giving our support. It is also important to research those who we choose to head up the party….I believe many of you would be surprised at what you find in the past of those who claim to be so virtuous and blight-free.
Mr. Webb himself suggested this week that one of the party’s members silence his comments about Ms. Crabill because they were “dangerously close to being outside the party rules and regulations.” Where is the goosestepping clause in the Republican Party Plan? Are we not to approach all of our candidates with some level of scrutiny? Are even our party chairs above such reproach? Are we not to exercise our right to free speech upon gaining membership in a local party organization?
And here’s a grand idea….don’t run ANYONE unless you have a stellar candidate. Is that so wrong? Why does the Republican party continue to run lackluster candidates in the face of insurmountable odds?
I agree, however, that photoshopping her photo as a “tinfoil hat wearer” is juvenile and that it lowers us to the name-calling level to which both parties have become accustomed in the past few years. Let’s stick to reading her own comments and her own platform…oh…and thinking for ourselves.
Ms. Crabill’s conspiracy theories about Oklahoma City and the JFK assassination speak volumes about her focus on the evils of government, which we all can agree exist in some form. Perhaps, though, we need someone more attuned to current, provable phenomena like the impending tax hikes and burdens on our grandchildren as opposed to things like FEMA camps and illegal raids on “cult” leaders. I respect Ms. Crabill’s dedication to her children’s quality of life, education, and moral values, but I think we can agree that we’re better off without David Koresh distorting the true gospel and that we can all do better than this in who we nominate for our party leadership.
I guess you didn’t realize that Catherine Crabill is the Nominee!
Not if the district cmte. reopens the filing period, which they should.
I’m a big fan of what we’ve come to call the 100-seat strategy where the GOP fields a candidate in every district across Virginia, similar to the Dems’ successful 50-state strategy. I don’t think we should concede a single seat to the Dems. However, I believe that fielding a politically damaged candidate (and once again I remind you that these wounds are self-inflicted) may be worse than not fielding a candidate at all.
Concerned Conservative – the photoshop of the tinfoil hat is illustrative of the problem with this candidate’s statements. They’re on the fringe and will not attract anywhere near a majority of voters that are needed to win. Plus, Virtucon has always couched critique in humor and we try not to take ourselves too seriously. Have you read our “About Us” page? (The wording, if you recognize it, gives a clue to the origin of this blog’s name.)
Dear Wiley–re: your April 22nd 9:35am comment, I would remind you that it was those on the left or those on the right who went and googled Catherine Crabill to begin discrediting her and her campaign. And Catherine Crabill is not as you write, “go(ing) on and on about it in her own website”, rather she wrote a succint truthful response. I would suggest that those who believe her actions/views are not in the mainstream go and do their own research i.e., view the video from Ret. General Partin. In addition, there is a plethora written on the topic. What this is all about is the theme that continues to run – popping up here and there over the years – throughout our government – esp. when the democrats are holding office. Again, the theme: OK City, Ruby Ridge, and Waco – too many unresolved questions. The current Secretary of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano, in a disturbing fashion, is resembling a similar recent historical figure, Janet Reno who was the Attorney General under Clinton – all you have to do is read the, yes, mainstream (not some right-wing extremist blog or news source) headlines.
Why should we in the current day have less concern about the involvement of our government than our founding fathers did in their day? Their distrust of the British Government based on the personal experience of the far reaching hand of government and then with their bringing about their own new country and government (please take a moment to read on C.Crabill’s website under Categories: Great Quotes for examples). Having a healthy understanding and regard for the potential for an out of control government is wisdom not cuckoo as (few) have suggested.
A person is judged by their character – there are few people I know who have such a consistently good character and excellent intellectual capacity than Catherine Crabill which is evidenced by the way she lives her life. People will resonate with that kind of character, hard-working, honest (no matter how much it costs) and sacrificial attitude and not bending to political correctness or republican popularity.
And yes, Wiley, Catherine puts it all out there – her views and her stances on issues. Why would we want someone who doesn’t comment or is silent in order to escape offending or risk not being popular. If one visits Albert Pollard’s website – under Views, there are two listed (w/little expounding). I think the 99th District is more than what is addressed.
Again, those who make juvenile comments and mar a person’s image will be seen for who they are. I support reasonable and intelligent debate but not the majority of what I’ve read online.
Kudos to you Catherine Crabill!!! Do not be dismayed or distracted!
Hey, dipstick, you cannot “reopen” the filing deadline just because you don’t like the candidate. Damn, but you’re a swell-head thug.
That’s exactly the kind of insider crap that infuriates everyday Republican sympathisers. Even State Central would shoot it down.
Oh, and can you say lawsuit?
Please, just shut up.
PS. I knew Ben Partin (General Ben, as we called), and he is everything she says. But I think he’s flat wrong on OKC.
Dist. cmtes. reopen filing all the time based upon changes in circumstances. In this case, one of the filed candidates dropped out (LeeAnn Washington due to health reasons) and the remaining candidate is calling the U.S. Gov’t “domestic terrorists” — not 15 years ago, but YESTERDAY.
I’ve served on everything from being chairman of a county GOP magisterial district all the way up to RPV State Central, so I know of what I speak (not to mention being an attorney in the field of election law who served as Steve Forbes’ #2 attorney in ’96 where I was in charge of ensuring that he was on the ballot in each state holding a primary.) It isn’t that hard to do something with regard to reopening filing periods.
And Sensibility — Ruby Ridge occurred in August ’92, during President George H.W. Bush’s term. My only question with regard to OK City is whether we caught everyone responsible. The most questions do remain about Waco and some unedited video footage I have seen raises many questions about the official story.
Finally, there is nothing “succint” (as you put it) or even succinct about Crabill’s post. Run-on sentences and lengthy paragraphs generally don’t qualify for that moniker. And, contrary to Crabill’s email this morning that she sent out, no one is trying to “assonate” her character.
(Anyone else notice a similarity in writing styles and being spelling-challenged between two certain authors?)
Riley – Are you even in the 99th district?
Riley—you are wrong about the similarity between the two authors. I am not Catherine Crabill – though don’t mind being accused of being her.. How ridiculous to propose such a thing and what an embarassment if it were true – again, which it is not.
Plus, if someone (like me) misses the “c” in succinct big deal. Plus I spelled assassinate correctly – the other must have just being not used spell check – again, big deal. I am done here because I do not have as much free time on my hands as apparently you do. I have a job.
Yes, are you, Riley, a resident of the 99th district? Good question.
All the best to you who have excessive time on your hands to stir up gossip and your own conspiracy theories.
Sensibility, I didn’t suggest you were. But I can see where you would be attracted to such a candidate based upon your similar styles.
Look, dummy, with a majority and balls you can overturn most anything in theory. Heck, with your background, you probably do it without a majority. But you have zero basis. A candidate followed the rules and is the nominee. Screw her by overturning procedure and you will 1) lose at district probably (cuz they don’t want that precedent) 2) lose at SCC (cuz they don’t want to get sued or the precedent) and 3) get the 99th district sued.
No wonder you get the fewest comments of any of the political blogs that I try to read.
Maybe we don’t get as many comments because our readers, which average at least 1,000 unique individuals per day, largely agree with us.
Thanks for giving us a pass on this race. Bummer about Tedisco.
Wow. A Moonbat convention here at Virtucon. Here’s a tip to the wacky Crabillbots infesting this site–her opinions concerning 9/11 and the JFK Assassination demonstrate that she is a mentally ill person completely unsuited to serve the people of her district or the people of the Commonwealth of Virginia. I think the District Committee could remove her on that ground alone and it would be bulletproof in court.
Now let’s examine Crabill’s wacky conspiracy theories. The idea that the collection of mediocrities, bloated bureaucrats and dimwitted civil servants who make up and have made up the bulk of the permanent US Government since the inception of the New Deal could conspire to murder a 100+ citizens and then successfully cover it up is laughable. We couldn’t even protect our own counter-terror tactics in the middle of two wars from disclosure in the NY Times. Go try and sell those theories to anyone who has spent anytime working in the national security apparatus and they will laugh until they shit themselves and then label you as a halfwit.
And let me answer your question about General Partin. His documentary is a joke. It looks like it was filmed by a monkeycam He was a good man who cracked when he didn’t get a second star. It happens.
Why does being a resident of 99th District matter when this lady’s going to represent not just her district but the R next to her name as well? This kinda crazy taints the ballot all the way up to the top.
Look you don’t “remove” people cuz *holes like you declare them “crazy.”
You don’t get comments because you rarely say anything worth agreeing or disagreeing with.
She followed the rules, no one else ran, so folks it is simply tough slip. Really, y’all are pathetic … and it is exactly this kind of inside manipulation at a petty level that makes some people buy the bigger conspiracy theories. If YOU want to break the game just to get her, what do people who think like you do with real power (so they may think).
You are 100x more dangerous than this woman is to freedom and the Republican Party.
We’re not saying to remove Crabill. We’re just saying that the 99th Dist. Cmte. should reopen filing in light of changed circumstances. Crabill would still be able to convince people she deserves the nomination, but Republican voters should have the ability to choose between her and another GOPer who has political viability greater than that of a gnat. And ultimately this is what we are talking about. The ability to win a seat. SHE is the one who just YESTERDAY wrote that the U.S. Gov’t are “domestic terrorists.” You’re naive if you don’t think that Pollard and the DPV will use that not only against her as they steamroller her, but against McDonnell, Bolling and our AG nominee as well.
Look, I’ll try one last time, she IS the legitimate nominee. Period. Folks had their chance, no one wanted to run.
Changing the rules is CHEATING AND STEALING.
To advocate that makes you a cheater and thief.
And what you do to someone you deign (sp?) beneath your respect will one day be done to you by someone stronger. The rule of law is more important than you or her, and believe it or not, it comes down to 1) respecting it when you don’t like the outcome and 2) fighting for it even if it leads to an outcome you would not choose.
She IS the nominee. Period.
And she should be.
Well, Dummy, if you guys want to stick by her, best of luck with that. Have fun being represented by Albert “The Trashman” Pollard for another two years because even before we posted anything about this, we already heard out of Richmond that Crabill would get zero assistance from the Party.
One final note to both Dummy and Sensibility. Had it not been for these comments, in particular the ones she made just this week, I would find much to like about where she stands on the issues, particularly support for the Tenth Amendment.
Dummy is precisely what his name suggests. Let me see if I got this straight, let’s say someone won a GOP POTUS nomination and it was discovered–from the candidate’s own writings–that he or she was a mentally incompetent lunatic who believed in crackpot conspiracy theories. Now, none of the voters knew about this lunacy before voting for him or her in the primary. So in your view, the GOP should fall on its sword, concede the Presidency and run the lunatic imbecile?
I would suggest to you that that is suicidal idiocy and that you are a moron of the highest order if you believe that. District Committees exist to guard against just such late-arising, game-changing information. And this sort of scenario is exactly why the rules allow them to remove mentally unstable monnbats like Crabill.
You are either stupid, a liar or both when you suggest having the Distict Commitee do what the rules set it up to do, is itself breaking the rules. Only a febile minded imbecile with two or three extra chromosones could torture logic so badly to come to your conclusion.
Please go home tonight, put your head in the oven, turn on the gas and do the gene pool a favor.
An e-mail for the posting…
To all,
The local Republican Party apparatchik demonstrating their version of the “Big Tent” philosophy of the GOP below…
Sincerely,
James LeRoy Cupp
cuppy2k@hotmail.com
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From: kgrepublican@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:30 AM
To: cuppy2k@hotmail.com ; [REDACTED]
Cc: [REDACTED]
Subject: Re: Part 2: ** KOOKS for Crabill? **
So which part of the Republican party are you from, the part that would rather see a demonRat get in office so it would be easier to get them out (yeah that has worked for us in the past) or are you just one of those that for some reason thinks that Sir Albert is entitled to the seat and should be the face of the Republican party in the Northern Neck. I say to you, if you really are a Republican, and don’t like a candidate or potential candidate and feel you need to dig up any possible dirt on them …. SHUT UP. Just crawl into the voting booth and vote demonRat. If you are a Republican and don’t like the candidate, don’t vote for them. Bashing Catherine like this will do nothing to unseat ALPO….or is that your goal?
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From: Allen Webb
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:30 AM
To: cuppy2k@hotmail.com ; [REDACTED]
Cc: [REDACTED]
Subject: RE: Part 2: ** KOOKS for Crabill? **
James,
One more time, and this is my last reminder, on the “perception” that you are giving here with regard to forwarding a potential Democrat planned agenda against a potential Republican candidate. You’re not just peddling information to specific group of Republicans to express concerns, you’re putting this stuff forward in the public realm. This the same type of thing that a previous member of the Party in the 99th did just a few years ago who was running for the Board of Supervisors. He lost that race, was censured by the 99th and 1st District and then removed from his post. Your veiled attempts to “word smith” the e-mails so they appear to be mere discussion items is not going to help in any defense you may put forward should someone complain to the 99th, the 1st or RPV. This is the last time I will suggest that you drop this subject via the e-mail and public network. If you have an issue with Ms. Crabill, then I suggest that you (as a member of a local Committee) bring it forward to her, your Unit Chairman or the 99th District. But, this continued public dissemination of information that obviously originates from people (Democrats?) who’s goal is to make sure the Republican candidate does not win, is unacceptable.
I cannot believe that you do not understand this.
R. Allen Webb
99th LDRC Chairman
28th SDRC Chairman
State Central – 1st District.
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Alan Webb is a moron. He has a nutjob who is going to go down to flaming defeat and his response is to circle the wagons? If someone needs to get removed it is Alan Webb.
UMM, Miss Banshee, Squared . . .issuing terrorist threats not only peak the interest of voters, it peaks their interest in filing a complaint with the FBI. REAL Americans don’t appreciate having their lives threatened if they don’t choose you in a voting booth.
Before you get behind a microphone again without your hormone meds . . . take a few years and go back to civics classes and learn what the Constitution and Bill of Rights really mean … in REAL AMERICA.
By the way, even the mental midget Palin learned how to use spell check. If ,,,,as you think you are something of a superior being in Murki-stan…..you might also want to learn English Grammar along with spelling.
But let’s face it, if this banshee didn’t make an utter ass out of herself … to the nation and the WORLD WHO IS WATCHING . . .the opposing party’s candidate wouldn’t be reaping the rewards of an influx of campaign donations.
Like they say, there’s a silver lining even under the ugly cloud of domestic terrorists with microphones.
Full video of Virginia GOP candidate’s “bullet box” speech at a Tea Party Rally, July 15, 2009
http://www.dailykostv.com/w/001942/
You guys are what is wrong with the Republican Party, and the reason so many people are leaving the Party. Catherine was not implying that we take up arms, she was quoting Patrick Henry, anyone with any common sense knows that we cannot take over the government with an armed revolution. Catherine is not perfect, and she is no politician, she is an angry citizen who wants to see change in this corrupt government of ours. Can she beat Pollard, she will beat him because she has a great grassroots movement to help her, no we are not a bunch of kooks, come to one of our meetings, you will find people from the ages of 14 to 85 there,and they are angry too. You might see your friends and neighbors or people you go to church with, if you go to church, and if you do then try listening and quite being so hateful. We average 100 people every two weeks at our meeting and we will soon be averaging 150 because we are growing. What are you doing to help change the direction of this country, besides tearing someone down who cares. I doubt I can get through to you, to get you to see that your Party is just as corrupt as the other, but at least Catherine will add some honesty and integrity to the Party. I know she will win and the next time I hope she runs as an independent.
“I know she will win and the next time I hope she runs as an independent.”
Well, I can at least agree with half of the above quote, Mr. Speiss…
Also, remember that creating a “mob” is illegal in Virginia, which is what is sounds like is happening with all of these “angry” folks showing up for organizational meetings…
Where do you all meet, so I can stay as far away as possible, lest I be arrested for treason?
I’m so glad to see “good” Republicans out in droves merely because they are angry. That’s a GREAT foundation for creating lasting, appropriate change in our system of government. Couldn’t that be easily equated to the emotional response to “change” in last November’s election?
If all we’re looking for is “anger” and “care” then we need look no farther than any number of extremist groups calling themselves conservative all across this nation of ours. What we need, however, is a stable mixture of disdain, eloquence, integrity, and intelligence. So far all we have from Ms. Crabill is a willingness to ignite the rabble at any and so-called conservative events. Her only qualification in this regard is her loud voice, her complete disregard for polite discourse, and her investment of $250.00.
My money is still on an approximate 3% vote carry in November.
You guys are such a joke, actually you are pathetic. You call us a mob, have you looked at acorn lately, or maybe the black panthers, or hey how about the way you guys bus people in when ever a black man or woman cries prejudice, oh I mean when a liberal black man or woman cries prejudice. Because when a conservative black man is attack by one of your union mobsters, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson remain silent. It would be easier for you guys to move to Europe instead of fighting so hard to turn us in Europe. Yes, I’m angry and no I don’t like having to go to organized Tea Partys, there are other things I could be doing, but I will not let you communist take this country, I have had a brother give his life for this country, and my son is in the Army doing his duty for a country we love, while people like you want ot destroy all that our fore fathers fought for.
Mr. Speiss: Your ignorance is breathtaking… That you are apparently in charge of the local “Tea Party” movement is a discredit to an otherwise worthwhile movement.
I assume your last post regarding “bus[sing] people in” and “your union mobsters” and “you communist” [sic] is directed at Mr. Lawson and myself.
These comments are just utterly absurd, as both Mr. Lawson and myself (we have used our real names, unlike you until being called upon it) have been involved in the local Republican Party for a number of years and, if anything, have been viewed as fairly right-wing, myself especially.
Even the slightest bit of research about Mr. Lawson and myself before your half-cocked posting would have made you look less foolish. But, then again, so would even the slightest bit of research about Ms. Crabill and her background have made you appear less foolish…
I’m happy that you have again proven that when folks have no legitimate bases for political arguments, they turn to ad hominem attacks, here entirely groundless.
It really is amazing that you don’t even do the tiniest bit of research into who the people are who have replied to your rantings. I won’t go into how many spelling and typographical errors your last two posts have had–an indication of the lack of planning of one’s arguments. This is exactly the point I have tried to make for years. My beloved GOP continues to commit political suicide by its willingness to blindly support candidates who only earn the support by spouting rants on hot-button topics of the day, not by having what should be the requisite character, integrity, stability, and eloquence necessary to truly be successful.
I will disregard your comparison of Mr. Cupp and myself to card-carrying reds and ACLU members. It doesn’t apply, and therefore doesn’t deserve the respect of my attention or retort.
As to the mention of your brother and your son, I truly and deeply respect those who choose or are chosen to defend our liberties. Unfortunately, outside of discussion in regard to our armed forces and the lack of regard afforded them by our current administration, I feel their mention is irrelevant. Your dedication and your brother’s and son’s is immaterial when discussing Ms. Crabill’s fitness for office.
This type of commentary, in my opinion, is what causes our inability to find consensus, and not groupthink within our own party. Without this, how can we ever hope to enact true reform ?
My apologies for the misspelling… My postings above should have referred to “Mr. Spiess.”
What’s even more hilarious, Mr. Spiess, is that your “business partner” Mr. Sheridan attended Northumberland High School with both Mr. Lawson and myself. Even spending just a minute or two talking to him — “the tiniest bit of research” — could have saved you this embarrassment.
First of all I never hide my identity, and second of all maybe I should use word and paste my responses, so I do not have so many typigraphical errors. I do not have to do research to understand that you two are buffoons just like I stated earlier, yes I have stooped to name calling, and I will apologize now. But who in the world do you think you are, when you think that you are a better republican than someone else who has conservative views, just because Catherine dosn’t think like you she dosn’t have the same rights as you. I will repeat myself, you are what is wrong with the republican party, and when all is said and done thank yourselves for destroying it. If a new party forms it will be because of people like you. I like the way you try to hold yourselves above the fray, by claiming that because I have no basis for political arguments that I have to resort to name calling and rants is no different than name calling. And my brother and son do come to play, when it is for the right for people to run for office without people like you trying to stop them. You guys only like the Tea Party if it will help your cause, if not then you would like them to be done with, well guess what we are here to stay and when we are done there just might be a new party, because both party’s are full of corruption, and it is party liners like you who enable it. You are the ones who compared us to mobs, and you expect me to not say anything, you are not far right by any means and you are just as bad as the far left, with you rantings about Crabill, by the way I am not the least bit embarrassed, I would only be that if I happen to go to school with the likes of you, I will offerr my condolences to Marc.
I am enjoying being called both a “Communist” and a “party liner.” Make a choice Mr. Spiess. We’re either one or the other. It is you who is the “party liner” by not asking any questions of anyone who is running. If Mr. Cupp and myself were party liners as you so accuse, we would merely keep our mouths shut and check Ms. Crabill’s box in November PURELY on the basis of her (R) following her name. That, I assure you, will not be the case.
My willingness to be critical of Ms. Crabill’s beliefs is at the very core of being a good Republican. Your lack of desire to do any research into ANYTHING without commenting or voting is what is wrong with the party. Do a little research on the internet about “groupthink.” I feel you’ll find that many Republicans have fallen to this very dangerous method of thinking. I would also recommend a little work on your writing in the areas of run-on sentences. That would do a great deal to further your cause.
Once again, I don’t see how members of the armed forces come into this argument save for the idea that they fight for the right of people like Ms. Crabill to run for office. Stick to the subject Mr. Spiess. I also have never said Ms. Crabill has any less rights than you, or me, or Mr. Cupp. I never said she didn’t have the “right” to run. She certainly has that. I merely have commented on how it is amazing that none of the so-called “good Republicans” were willing to be critical of her, or any other Republican candidate for that matter.
When Republicans are only willing to begin name calling without even knowing the people to whom the names are being applied it is a sad day for the party. When we’re willing to lower ourselves to the level of the other party merely because members of our own are willing to be critical it is truly sad and divisive. When you want to clean up your own party, you must be able to criticize your own.
I will pour no more of my precious free time into replying to your attacks Mr. Spiess, mainly because I don’t know you. After these comments I don’t particularly care to know you either. The lack of eloquence and skill in your writings have proven them to be the rantings of someone who has never been open to polite discourse about a candidate, and my responses are never going to change that.
I will leave you with a comment from one of the founding fathers:
“Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.”
To all: Be willing to question anyone who comes forward to be your mouthpiece within our system of governance. Be willing to know what you know, because you truly understand, not because you are following blindly. Don’t act purely out of anger, disdain, or fear. Act on reason and knowledge.
This Republican believes this to be true and follows this to the letter, and so should you.
I love the way you believe yourselve to be the intelligent ones, you guys are the joke of the net, and you are right, I will not waste my time with either of you anymore. You are both more than likely of couple of nerds, oh on that one I did do my research, talked to people who knew you.
Wow…just….wow…
I never insulted your I.Q once, but I guess I’ll just have to accept that only one of us is capable of polite discourse. I also will take the “nerd” as a compliment, as there have been few occasions in history where someone has been both a “nerd” and unintelligent.
It is also clear that you aren’t willing to ever question anything. You certainly weren’t willing to make a reference on the terms “Communist” and “Party-liner.” If in fact I were a “party-liner,” I would merely vote for Ms. Crabill because of her party affiliation. If in fact I were a Communist, I would be completely opposed to her merely on the basis that I was a supporter of the Communist party (or perhaps the Socialist administration under which we find ourselves). Since I am neither, and I have had several indications of my level of intelligence in the past–college degree from a prestigious Virginia institution, several post-graduate professional degrees and certifications–I will just disregard you as someone who is just plain mean and unwilling to discuss things with an open mind.
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