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Faux Outrage

We’re hearing lots of outrage from the left following Gov. Bob McDonnell’s decision to dedicate April as Confederate History month.  While nearly 150 years have passed since the start of the Civil War, it remains a touchy subject for many and understandably so.  However, Gov. McDonnell has emphasized the “History” part of it.

I was focused on … the Civil War history, and the Confederate army and the fact that we’ve got battlefields here, and frankly that this is going to be a very important event here next year that will promote tourism and economic development,” he said, noting the 150th anniversary of the start of the Civil War.

The reaction was predictable.

Black members of the General Assembly, all Democrats, said McDonnell’s proclamation was “offensive and offered a disturbing revision of the Civil War and the brutal era that followed.”

“Virginia has worked hard to move beyond the very things for which Gov. McDonnell seems nostalgic,” said a statement issued by the Virginia Legislative Black Caucus.

I hardly think that an Irish Catholic raised in Northern Virginia who attended Notre Dame is “nostalgic” towards the Confederacy.

Now if you want to see nostalgia for the Confederacy, one need look no further than Virginia’s senior senator…

Webb’s rebel roots: An affinity for Confederacy – POLITICO.com

“He has suggested many times that while the Confederacy is a symbol to many of the racist legacy of slavery and segregation, for others it simply reflects Southern pride. In a June 1990 speech in front of the Confederate Memorial at Arlington National Cemetery, posted on his personal website, he lauded the rebels’ “gallantry,” which he said “is still misunderstood by most Americans.”

Remarks at the Confederate Memorial, June 3, 1990 –jameswebb.com

“I am not here to apologize for why they fought, although modern historians might contemplate that there truly were different perceptions in the North and South about those reasons, and that most Southern soldiers viewed the driving issue to be sovereignty rather than slavery.”

Northern Virginia Daily: Battlefield park preserved

The simplest explanation, he said, can be found on the Confederate memorial in Arlington National Cemetery.
“Not for fame or reward, not for place or for rank, not lured by ambition or goaded by necessity, but in simple obedience to duty as they understood it. These men suffered all sacrificed all dared all and died,” he said.
“What better way to say it,” he said. “This is a great place to come and remember what sacrifice is, and what it means.”

Where’s the outrage against that?  Could it have anything to do with the Virginia Legislative Black Caucus being all Democrats like Jim Webb?  If the outrage was real and not motivated by partisanship, then Webb would be held to the same standard.  Instead, he gets a pass because he has a “D” after his name.

Amazingly enough, the WashPo failed to include the word “thesis” in their article about this.

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25 Responses to “Faux Outrage”

  1. citizenofmanassas

    Also, the naacp honored Van Jones with a life time award last month. Yes, the same Van Jones who was an admitted Communist and has said some pretty racisit statements. Has the naacp ever spoken out against the black panthers?

    It’s the same broken record from the naacp and the lefties.

  2. Eric Martin

    They’re the same Democratic Caucus who would gladly reach in your pocket and take your money to fund another Timmy Kaine vacation on our dime though, or hand over our state constitution to the federal government to make our decisions for us, or overfund corrupt school administrators who line their pockets and retirement plans with cash.

    But don’t blame Webb and Warner, noooo- it’s still Bush’s fault.

    … Talk about some sellouts to the people who elected them!

    Hipocrisy Pie anyone? It’s fresh, tasty and plentiful made for you by the good folks in the Virginia Legislative Black Caucus

  3. michaelC

    It is amusing to me the posters here do acknowledge the form of this proclamation for the political theatre it is. The governor wants to provoke the ‘left’ in order to solidify his bona fides with the conservatives. (In case you didn’t notice that is the posters and practically all of the readers of this blog.) So first off, it is you that is being used as tools in this ‘bold’ move. Just to make that point absolutely clear, it is your ‘faux outrage’ in reaction to the predicted response to this action that is the real point of all of this.

    Second, I find it odd that so many would cheer the national publicity for Virginia. This announcement celebrates Virginia as a state that prefers to be seen as one holding onto its aggrieved status from events of 150 years ago. Speaking as someone from outside the south, this makes me think of Virginia as being a bit more like South Carolina and Alabama with respect to culture and being modern than I previously thought.

    BTW, the Civil War is not a touchy subject for most of the country.

  4. Peter Blaise

    New state slogan:

    “Virginia is for Loosers”
    … who celebrate the
    Confederacy,
    the pinnacle of
    anti-American
    fear, hate, greed, and torture.

    Thanks, Governor McDonnell!

    • Riley

      Yes, scripto, we do allow liberals to post here, which is why we have set such a low threshold. Unfortunately, the previous poster appears to even fall short of that lenient standard.

  5. Eric Martin

    Peter just demonstrated the propoganda of the left in his best effort to speel it out fir us in the Pelosi talking points issues 3 months ago. He’s not even current- LOL!

    Anti-American? We birth more presidents than any other state! Fear, hate, greed and torture are liberal fearmongering rhetoric at its lowest. They certainly don’t teach that at MY CHURCH anyway. Maybe Peter goes to Bill Maher’s church.

    I wouldn’t expect the spokesman for the left here–with the moral compass of Jack Sparrow– to provide the leadership needed to fix the mess made (mostly) by Democrats in Washington in a blog setting that’s fer shure.

    Can parrots even think for themselves?

  6. citizenofmanassas

    I suggest anyone who does not like the proclamation, and or Confederate history, to be sure and not accept the benefits the Commonwealth receives from tourists who come here to see the many battlefields and other areas connected directly the Confederacy.

    I think we are all adults here, and can view the proclamation for what it, to spotlight one aspect of the history of Virginia. There is no suggestion that we somehow should relive the era.

  7. True Conservative

    LOL

    I’m sorry; I’m a bit of a stickler for intellectual honesty in a debate forum. I’ve read Peter’s post a couple of times trying to extract what makes him a liberal. He is not very literate that is for sure. He is very angry about something. I for the life of me don’t know what it is from what he has posted here.

    I go to church with a bunch of self proclaimed conservatives with the communication skills of a sixth grader. For all I know it was Peter sitting next to me on Sunday. What exactly was it about his post that differentiates him form an angry conservative? He certainly has the angry part down.

  8. Eric Martin

    “Virgina Legislative **Black** Caucus”

    Is this organization, by its very foundation and title, not a *racist* group? Hello ACLU??

    I’m faux-outraged too now and demand an apology for not letting Albert Pollard in to its secret “blacks-only” meetings! I know Edd Houck would have gone too if he only got the invitation, but alas, they were omitted intentionally! One can only dream of the biased and prejudiced things this group cooks up in secret. I’ll bet they’re even trying to abolish White History Month!

    I have a dream that one day black and white state delegates can sit in a big publicly funded dome room as equals and debate the best way to lead our great state out of its problems with education, employment and financial worries. I have a dream that one day a white man’s vote will be equal in their eyes and they will not actively seek to keep him out of their closed meetings which bar a well-meaning white legislators like Edd Houck and Albert Pollard to attend. I have a dream that one day this private and exclusive club will tear down it’s “blacks-only” sign on the door and let everyone inside regardless of skin color. This means the full range of whites could attend no matter how pasty almond they appear in Winter or how slighlty off-beige their skin tones are in Spring. Everyone will be equal under the eyes of the law once we stop judging the merit of our delegates by the pigments in their skin… uhh, from within the delegates group itself who don’t see the hipocrisy in their group’s very formation.

    Then and only then can we rightfully replace all the giant statues of patriots and “white” religious figures (like Jesus of the Middle East) in Richmond that people have been coming to see for a hundred years, with giant statues of gay black tennis players who die of AIDS instead (…Arthur Ash anyone? Try and keep up here.)

    “History; good and bad, is damned to exist only in obscurity and irrelevance if it isn’t preserved, fully intact in its own time’s perspective, and its lessons not taught in full context to the next generation.”
    –I said that

  9. Eric Martin

    Hi True,

    Thanks for posting and may you have a merry and blessed day.

    Peter’s short and simple post qualifies him as a Lib in my view because I’ve never once heard a conservative, independent by nature, or even left-of-center Democrat call a successful well-established conservative like Bob McDonnell anything. They may disagree with him, but they don’t go around accusing him of being a right-wing nut God-following bigot or woman hater. But you know who does? Liberals. Exclusively.

    It seems consistent with all the jargon used by Libs on TV and radio to only be only the farthest of left-wingers who spew the false-lables like racist and hater on conservatives (the majority of America.)

    The greediest of people and richest donors to any party are well-known liberals, but yes they come in all creeds.

    Peter spewed the same simple-minded blather and got bitch-slapped for it, plain and simple.

  10. Eric Martin

    I have a dream that one day black and white state delegates can sit in a big publicly funded dome room as equals and debate the best way to lead our great state out of its problems with education, employment and financial worries.

    I have a dream that one day a white man’s vote will be equal in their eyes and they will not actively seek to keep him out of their closed meetings which bar a well-meaning white legislators like Edd Houck and Albert Pollard to attend.

    I have a dream that one day this private and exclusive club will tear down it’s “blacks-only” sign on the door and let everyone inside regardless of skin color. This means the full range of whites could attend no matter how pasty almond they appear in Winter or how slighlty off-beige their skin tones are in Spring.

    Everyone will be equal under the eyes of the law once we stop judging the merit of our delegates by the pigments in their skin… uhh, from within the delegates group itself who don’t see the hipocrisy in their group’s very formation.

  11. Eric Martin

    Then and only then can we rightfully replace all the giant statues of patriots and “white” religious figures (like Jesus of the Middle East) in Richmond that people have been coming to see for a hundred years and paying tourism taxes that McDonnell wants to protect, with giant statues of gay black tennis players who die of AIDS instead (…Arthur Ash anyone? …Try and keep up here.)

    “History; good and bad, is damned to exist only in obscurity and irrelevance if it isn’t preserved, fully intact in its own time’s perspective, and its lessons not taught in full context to the next generation.”
    –I said that

  12. Peter Blaise

    Topic: Confederate History Month celebration announced by Virginia Governor

    History: Confederacy lost (excellent definition of loser — thanks for the spelling fix, by the way, since “looser” is not misspelled, but the wrong word … and historically, there never has been a basis in intelligence versus spelling accuracy, but that’s another topic)

    Background: Confederacy left the “Union” because of an anti-slavery president, hence the war to reunify the country

    Slavery: definition – torture, based on greed and hate, based on fear

    Now, if I read the founding documents like the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Bill of Rights, Gettysburg Address and so on, and review the purpose of the Confederacy, I see the Confederacy is defined by it’s “unamericanism”, as is slavery, the whole reason for being for the Confederacy in the first place.

    So, in declaring a Confederacy celebration, McDonnell is celebrating a loser and unamerican activities by definition.

    Ahh, we see what we want to see, hear what we want to hear, believe what we want to believe.

  13. MitchellP

    I hope none of you conservatives are relying on your businesses to bring in the tourist dollars. Last time I looked money is still green. Or don’t you remember the boycotts in your neighbor, South Carolina? And the reason you were fighting so hard was to maintain slavery in Virginia.

    When we skip Virginia as a vacation spot and cancel hotel reservations and conferences in Virginia and have the young people leave for spring break and go somewhere else and start boycotting your businesses, and have so many rallies and marches that it will put the tea parties to shall and no one would want to come to your fine state in all of this controversy, then maybe you will change your tune.

  14. Peter Blaise

    Thanks for the link, Ron. The Governor has now added pretty much exactly what I said, and much, much more! At least he or his writers are willing to “get it” — that slavery, the Confederacy’s reason for being, is inexcusable, unacceptable, and unamerican (and the opposite of conservatism regardless of the hyphenation anybody put in front, such as religious- or political- or economic- or whatever). By the way, the Governor said nothing about my misspelling. =8^o (Yes, he saw my proposal for a new Virginia State slogan.)

    Eric, I agree, and would direct the Black Caucus to “Mix it Up” — see:

    http://www.tolerance.org/mix-it-up

    But, Eric, regarding a character limit, I presume you mean type-written characters, not “personalities”, which are wholly unlimited, eh? ;-)

    As a conservative, isn’t it anathema to want someone to pre-read and censor our otherwise free and open dialogs for us? Don’t we want to exercise our personal freedom and responsibility to read and filter to our own preferences? Don’t we all have down-arrow keys and delete keys that we can use at our own discretion?

    And finally, Eric, I’ve never heard Nancy Polosi speak, nor have I read anything she’s written. However, I can’t imagine that “bitch slap” has a functional a part of any dialog. I’m here to offer equivalent consideration to all, and I expect the same.

    citizenofmanassas, I’d think if it were all about tourism, not only would it have been about the Civil War battlefields, not the Confederacy, but also I’d think that the Virginia Department of Tourism would have prepared Confederacy Month visiting and travel recommendations, which they have not.

    Riley, thanks for the humor — “low threshold set for liberals”. Growing up listening to William F. Buckley broadcasts live (if we can ever call min that), I appreciate savvy humor. Wink, wink.

  15. True Conservative

    Peter you state, ‘Confederacy left the “Union” because of an anti-slavery president, hence the war to reunify the country’

    That’s funny; I thought the fascist war of northern aggression was started because greedy industrialists in the north had managed to misuse government to legislate a trade advantage over their overseas rivals. To do that they created an unfair export tax to economically control who producers in the south could sell raw materials to. This was an unacceptable restriction on southern trade rights which lead to the attempt to succeed from the union. Because of weather restrictions the north couldn’t produce enough material to keep the factories stocked and allowing the south to succeed would have decimated the holdings of the northern industrialists.

    Lincoln couldn’t allow that to happen to his friends. To say the Lincoln was an anti-slavery president is a bit of a stretch. Even though the abolitionists had been around for a long time they didn’t have enough political power to affect change. The northern industrialists had the power because a strong relationship between government and industry had been forged, but they were more interested in the control of raw materials then freeing the slaves. It was mutually beneficial for the two groups to come together. For the industrialists freeing the slaves served two purposes; it evened the economic playing field (wage-slave vs. chattel slave) and it quenches their thrust to punish the south.

    The way it worked out the industrialists managed to make extreme war time profits and externalize the costs of their war on to the government which in turn passed the liability onto us citizens. As a direct result, we ended up with the much hated income tax which has never gone away even though it had never been ratified. So you see the so called war to end slavery enslaved us all.

  16. Peter Blaise

    Thanks for clarifying and corroborating, “truconservative”. As I said, there is nothing to celebrate about the Confederacy, defenders of slavery and losers of the Civil War. Hence my suggestion of a change in the Virginia State slogan from “Virginia is for Lovers” to “Virginia is for Losers (who celebrate the Confederacy)”. (Yeah, yeah, “losers” not “loosers”.)

    However, you also confirm that history is worth exploring anew for each of us, as there are endless ways for each generation and each vantage point to reinterpret from whatever evidence and testimony and speculation we care to pay attention to. How true it is that especially in war, all “sides” may have agendas that are not meritorious.

    Yet, as true conservatives, it makes sense to decry any sort of welfare state where one lives off the hard work of others: slavery was a southern plantation owners welfare system, hence my confusion as to why a supposedly conservative thought piece here would not be outraged at a celebration of the Confederacy.

    Instead, the lead piece criticized the Black Caucus for appearing hypocritical. Yet, Governor McDonnell pretty much agreed with them, recanted, and admonished himself for neglecting the whole “slavery and subsequent Jim Crow thing”, and that’s what this thread was mostly about as far as I can see.

    They still should change the name to Civil War History Month if they are genuine in their concern for history and tourism … another thread.

    However, as our focus wanders, taxes wise, I’d think that as true conservatives, we’d abhor any thought of a welfare state where any person reaps benefits without their own contribution at the expense of others who do contribute. Would that not be denying our concomitant personal responsibilities while taking unfair advantage of our personal freedoms? As true conservatives, we must be the first in line to pay our fair share of the cost of our own self governance, from which we take overwhelming benefits. Otherwise, we would be trying to recreate the southern slavery plantations where those who do the work and those who reap the benefits are not one and the same.

    But, again, we digress somewhat form the main thread, so perhaps we should save the whole taxes thing for another post, separate from here.

    Thanks, everyone, for sincere, thought provoking contributions.

  17. citizenofmanassas

    Peter,

    Why don’t we just have a “people” history month proclamation instead of one for Blacks, Asians, hispanics, etc? Why do we break down along race and ethnicity for people, but when it comes to the war, we should just lump it all together?

  18. Peter Blaise

    Hi citizenofmanassas. “… Why do we break down [history month] along race and ethnicity …?” You’re kidding, right? You’re really asking?

    Okay. I’ll venture an answer that works for me.

    I imagine that “history” as is commonly thrust on us as kids in school, is written by someone, perhaps a committee, from the “dominant” culture, and tends to ignore any history outside it’s own self-centerd awareness, as well as tends to make itself look good, flawless even. This practice is not only inaccurate, but denigrating to everyone — the dominant culture and the dominated cultures as well. (Get ready for a generation of history dolts from Texas, as their school board has apparently decided to drive a myopic moral and political agenda through their student texts … topic for another thread.)

    Even my mother, a volunteer at “The Thing In The Spring” cleaning up Harlem in New York City, Summer 1968, couldn’t imagine what a college graduate would do with a Black History or African History degree. “The blacks have no hsitory,” she proclaimed. Ignorant, and no need to be that way. She didn’t know any better, and there’s no excuse for staying that way.

    So, I can see “history” needs revisiting, but a “celebration”, especially of the Confereracy is a tough sell.

    Also be aware that legitimate “Sons of the Confederacy” type historical organizations have been overwhelmed by infiltration from white supremacists seeking to take them over and use them as a political front. Without the serupticious energies of these falsified groups, you’re right, this probably would have been an all-incusive history and tourism event.

    As it is, the world will remember the first proclamation sans any reference to the horrors of slavery, and everyone will shake their heads and chagrin at what ol’ Virginia has done to ourselves.

    The Governor’s appology came too little, too late. The chance for a 2012 Palin/McDonnell ticket has been squandered by insensitivity and miscalculations at least.

    That’s my 2 or 3 cents, maybe a nickle. What do you think is a workable answer that makes sense for you, citizenofmanassas?

  19. True Conservative

    Peter, as a true conservative I always expand the definition of a welfare state to include corporate welfare in its many forms. Corporate welfare is far more destructive then social welfare because it creates externalities which in turn create the need for social welfare to balance the equation. Rather then cry about one component of the problem fixing nothing; I would prefer to fix the entire equation. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

    The systematic removal of time tested laws designed to prevent the externalizing of costs is drying up opportunity in this country right now. One of the basic tenants of conservative thinking is that if you work hard you will succeed. Unfortunately, for many hard working conservative minded people that is no longer the case. Attacking social welfare after an extended period of externalities is not wise unless you are trying to provoke civil unrest.

    There is no free ride when granting externalities to a privileged class and now the costs are being externalized on to us. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance and us true conservatives have been sleeping at the helm for the last eight years. Now, we pay the price. It was intellectually dishonest to think that we could borrow and spend with reckless abandonment and not pay higher taxes down the line.

  20. citizenofmanassas

    Peter,

    Your kidding right. There are plenty of resources for black history and has been for at least a generation. With the rise of ethnic study fields, degrees etc, it seems rather odd that we should break down along ethnic and racial lines.

    But, you do prove my point(history is often written by the dominate fraction of society), the history of the war is too often written from a yankee point of view these days, otherwise, there would be no shock to learn slavery existed in the north, that slavery was not the only cause of the war, etc. That Virginia attempted to broker peace between the North and the lower South, that it was only after Lincoln called for 75,000 volunteers from the Commonwealth did the people of the Commonwealth vote to leave the Union(an earlier vote rejected such a move).

    Who would have thought, that Grant’s wife brougt her slaves with her after Richmond fell? That Lincoln had the song “Dixie” played at a White House celebration after Lee surrendered? But it seems people are just willing to accept what they are told, the north was right, the South was wrong, etc.

    I’m a SCV member, and I have not seen any type of movement that you speak of. The SCV cannot have a poltical aspect, since it is a 501C organization.

    I would have left the proclamation as it was, told people if they were “offended” to read up on the history of the war.

    Besides, do you really think only the south benefited from the slavery? Given that slavery was legal in the United States until 1866, and many Northern Cities made a fortune by shipping cotton grown in the South, and the amount of money generated from slave labor that helped the Nation as a whole, I’m not sure only the South needs to be singled out.

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