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Joke Of The Day: PPP Releases A Poll…

Democrat polling firm Public Policy Polling is what I like to refer to as schizophrenic. When they’re trying to be fair and accurate, typically their final pre-election poll, they are very good. When they’re serving their Democrat masters earlier in the cycle trying to save their flailing candidates, their poll results are just downright laughable. Just look at their latest poll on Virginia.

Here are their results:

Head-to-Head: Obama 50 / Romney 42
Three-Way: Obama 49 / Romney 35 / Virgil Goode 9

Really? Nearly 1 in 10 Virginians would vote for Virgil Goode as the Constitution Party candidate knowing that their vote could swing the state to Obama and likely hand him a second term?

And Bob McDonnell’s approval numbers rating is 41 positive / 40 negative? Really? Every other recent poll has his approval numbers in the high 50s / low 60s.

Something doesn’t smell right.

But wait! It gets even fishier!

45 agree / 44 disagree with the Supreme Court’s Obamacare decision

10% of McCain voters are backing Obama.

Huh?

Here’s more breakdowns

Obama’s favorables 49/44
Moderates 63/33
Women 53/43
Men 45/50
D 92/5 R 9/89 I 46/46

Romney’s favorables 38/51
Moderates: 24/66
Women 34/54
Men 42/48
D 4/86 R 77/16 I 33/51

Among independents, Obama leads 47/36 with the poll’s party breakout D/R/I split is 33-D/33-R/34-I.

A few things about all this. First, no geographic breakout is available, so that raises a big red flag there. Second, Obama and Democrats trail among independents in nearly every state by significant margins in just about every poll, yet we are asked to believe that Obama leads in this key group by 11?

Just something to keep in mind — it seems that Obama mysteriously reaches 50% in Virginia in every poll of questionable methodology. At the same time, George Allen and Tim Kaine are usually tied in these polls (PPP has yet to release the Senate polling numbers), indicating that Kaine is trailing Obama in Virginia.  It should be interesting to see if this holds when those results come out.

One final note, this poll was taken July 5-8 — a holiday week that also saw massive power and phone outages across Virginia.

Garbage in, garbage out.

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26 Responses to “Joke Of The Day: PPP Releases A Poll…”

  1. Howard Roark

    Let’s not get too optimistic and let our guard down, but I think November will be another Wisconsin recall election. Remember that the pollsters kept saying right up to election day there that the race was too close to call; that we would be up all night waiting for the results, etc. The pollsters and media were trying to give their side as much room for optimism as possible to try to ensure they got to the polls. In the end, Scott Walker won with a strong margin and we knew the results not too long after dinnertime.

    The same thing is happening here. I’m not going to relax until the day after the election. I suspect we’re going to hear how close Obama is to Romney, likewise Kaine and Allen, and how popular the Democrats are. In reality, I suspect Romney will win perhaps not by a Reagan landslide but with a margin strong enough to put the biased pollsters to shame. I think we’ll see the same for George Allen.

    In the end, Romney wins and the House stays Republican. In the Senate, Republicans pick up seats even if not a majority. Republicans in the Senate, plus conservative Democrats and some Democrats who are up for reelection in 2014 will join forces to repeal Obamacare.

    What could prove me wrong? Republicans and independent conservatives sit on their butts during the election, get overconfident, etc. and don’t get out the vote to defeat Obama and the Democrats.

    • Thad Hunter

      I’m not relaxing until we elect conservative legislators with confidence and fire in the belly and supported by much better leadership to start rolling back the monstrosity of government funded and managed healthcare. So far, the Republican response has been tepid and they seem willing to accept the same goals but just at a slower, more cost effective, yes more moderate, rate.

  2. Ken Reynolds

    I’m not relaxing until (1) Obama is re-elected (likely); (2) Kaine beats Allen (Kaine has fire in his belly and is on top of the issues; Cowboy George is a worn-out old man with little in the way of new ideas and full of sound bites fed to him by his right-wing masters (3) we re-take the House, which will be a likely follow-up to Obama’s re-election. The only down-side to all of this is the likes of Senate Republicn Minority Leader McConnell will again set his sights on beating down Obama rather than providing constructive actions designed to correct problems – e.g., he will beat down any and everything done to fix the immigration problem).

    • Howard Roark

      Kaine has no fire in his belly. He’s nothing but warmed-over liberal cliches. He had to be dragged into this race kicking and screaming when the Democrats couldn’t find anyone else who wouldn’t produce a humiliating defeat for them next November.

      As for the rest of your comment; well, everyone has a right to their opinion but I fear you will not find that opportunity to relax.

    • Ken Reynolds

      Cowboy George’s claims to fame…………..was elected Governor of Virginia some 20 years ago; was elected US Senator 12 years ago and did nearly nothing; and THEN he was an energy consultant. And someone with your knowledge knows of all the dirty laundry under his bed that will all come out before the november election……..

  3. Howard Roark

    Thad, I understand where you are coming from but we must focus on the most urgent matter of the moment. That is getting rid of Obama and his crew. Romney might not be the ideal conservative, but he is far better than Obama. Same for Allen over Kaine.

    Romney and Allen have both pledged to repeal Obamacare. I’ll take them at their word, but if they betray us I’ll be looking for someone else in the next election.

    A stronger conservative might be better, but we must face reality. Romney and Allen are slam-dunk choices for me next to Obama and Kaine.

    • Thad Hunter

      @Howard: I’m with you on the general. I’m just considering a Romney win as necessary but not sufficient to repeal Obamacare. We must also elect different legislative leadership who will enable the freshmen class instead of “managing” them. Only then can I relax, well at least a little.

  4. Ken Reynolds

    I thought the current Republican consensus is that they would save the best parts of Obama care such as keeping ‘children’ up to age 26 on parents insurance policies; eliminating the max rules – no more life-time limits……..and similar provisions……………….end results……………nothing will be changed in the midst of bickering…..

    • Howard Roark

      We will keep the positive elements, including perhaps those you mention, with the full understanding that they must be paid for. However, each part will be debated on its merits rather than dumped into a massive, chaotic mess that no one read before voting on.

    • Lovettsville Lady

      People who are 26 are not ”children” and should be buying their own insurance! Democrats want to infantile all of us! The end result Ken is that we all pay more for insurance when our policies MUST cover everything and everyone. I should be able to decide my own coverage. If I want maximum coverage, I am able to find such a policy and pay for it. The government has no business forcing ALL insurance plans to cover everything for everyone.

    • Ken Reynolds

      LL – Age of a “child” is like “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”…….certainly 26 yos s/b on theirown, but stats show more and more are forced to come back home (vs occupy tents) for economic reasons………..many of us had their choice of several job openings back in the 60s ………life isnt that good today obviously….also, one of the projected positives will be economies of scale that s/bring costs down over the long run; in addition, people will have benefit of health care earlier –before a small problem turns into a major problem without early intervention. This is the dawning of a new day in health care……….most of us in t he DC area have been extremely fortunate for the health care we have………..lets spread the wealth!!

    • Howard Roark

      How about let’s create and grow more wealth and jobs so keeping your children on your health insurance after they become adults is not an issue? “Spread the wealth” That is Obama’s mantra and demonstrates his utter lack of comprehension of how an economy functions. “Wealth” is not static, to be fought over. One person does not have to lose in order for another to gain. A healthy economy allows creation and growth of wealth so that one person’s gain is not another’s loss. Only a bitter, declining society takes the mentality that one person must take from another to do better, or feel jealously or rage that someone else might be better off than you are. However, politicians like Obama thrive on nurturing this sort of hatred and envy so they can present themselves as saviors. Barack will defend you against those evil people who have done better in life than you have. He’ll take away what they have and give it to you!

      We need not only a change in leadership, but a change in attitude. We need to return to policies and thinking like prevailed when Ronald Reagan led the way. President Reagan promoted optimism, mutual respect, individual responsibility, productivity, and minimal government meddling in the economy instead of class warfare, hatred and envy as we see now. His policies created one of the greatest booms and periods of job creation in our nation’s history.

      Granted, Mitt Romney is not Ronald Reagan, but he’s much closer to Reagan than he is to Barack Obama. That’s reason enough for me to get behind positive change next November!

    • Ken Reynolds

      Howard, certainly job creation and growth of wealth are noble goals that will enable more younger citizens obtain jobs and be innocent and free. These goals however are not going to happen by republican edict. Similarly, “spread the wealth” in the interim is not an evil idea. And the only people screaming class hatred that i hear are the comedians like rush limbaugh. One needs to dig deeply into the eyes of President Obama to see kindness and compassion. And republican ideologues such as boehner and cantor are the ones running interference for the “rich”, many of whom have put them in office simply to protect their interests. We hear of the union-hating koch brothers spending their wealth to keep democrats out of office. And look at the hundreds of millions of $ pouring into the republican coffers thanks to citizens united. I worry a lot more about these unknowns who are buying our govt than attempts to help poor people obtain health insurance. As far as a “bitter/declining” society, here again we are listening to the republican comedians who serve as lapdogs for the rich…………..get over it Howard…………….wew will survive, we shall even overcome by living and working together………

  5. Lovettsville Lady

    Yippee, a new gravatar, and not that ugly vacuum cleaner that I was assigned the other day!

  6. rightongallows

    I’m looking forward to voting for and continuing to help and support Congressman Virgil Goode, the only real conservative in the race.

    • Riley

      I’ll tell you what, if Romney is leading by 5%+ in Virginia in pre-election polls, knock yourself out and vote for Virgil. Would you really rather have Obama than Romney, though? Romney was pretty much my last choice, but I’d rather have him with the option of supporting a primary challenger in 4 years if he doesn’t live up to expectations than 4 more years of Obama ruining the nation.

    • Thad Hunter

      Your voting method seems to eerily match your screen name. Shouldn’t we fight a no holds barred battle for the most conservative candidate during the primary and accept the best viable alternative in the general election? Voting for outliers is just giving up in my opinion or worse hurting the country in order to make a statement. Romney wasn’t my choice either but I have no reservations in defending or voting for him. I remember the reprobate that was elected in part, or maybe in total, thanks to Ross Perot. And Gail Parker may have swung the race to Jim Webb in 2006.

    • Howard Roark

      Ken’s comment below says it all. In a pivotal state with narrow polls like Virginia, we can’t just try to make a statement. I’m with Riley and Thad. Maybe Mitt Romney wasn’t our first choice, but we’ve got to support him in the interest of getting rid of Obama. If Mitt fails us, we’ll get behind a conservative primary challenger in 2016.

  7. Ken Reynolds

    That’s great…….i look forward to a “Ross Perot Goode” candidacy…….we could use the help in Virginia………..YAYYYYYYYYYYY for Virgil

    • Howard Roark

      But tomorrow I have to get up and go to my job (if I have one) and pay my mortgage. Government, get off my back!

  8. Ken Reynolds

    Monk……………you DO know that independents are liberal fruity types and therefore inclined to vote democrat??? hohohoh

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